*i think its sick that u guyz are not sending ur team to pakistan. u could have asked for moving matches played in karachi, but u just went the whole nine yards and cancelled the tour. what a shame! *
this is my letter to the south african board!
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*Originally posted by Jayzee: *
I say hell with the $3.2 million and the series be held at neutral venue... PCB will still make atleast half that money thru sponsorship.
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what sponsorship when their is no series.. ??
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*Originally posted by Jayzee: *
First of all, I agree with the fact that even before any security concerns were raised, the SA players were not in favor of this tour after their marathon, draining tour of England. I realize also that this tour meant a lot to all of us on GS and people of Pak. But if you look at the big picture scenario, I'd rather the series be held on neutral venue as opposed to Pak in this geo-political environment. God forbid if there was an incident in Pak while the SA team was here, that would pretty much mean curtains for any international cricket in Pakistan for a long, long time to come. Bangladeshis are humans, yes, but any issue to a western team would be a bigger concern as opposed to an Asian team for obvious reasons. If the goodwill and "izzat" of Pak remains in the sense that no harm is caused to the South African team by them not touring Pak, then I say hell with the $3.2 million and the series be held at neutral venue... PCB will still make atleast half that money thru sponsorship.
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So for how long you suggest we wait before any int'l cricket is played in pak?
**Pakistan hopes tour can still be salvaged **
Wisden Cricinfo staff - September 20, 2003
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has accepted the United Cricket Board of South Africa’s offer to postpone the series for a week, but have categorically rejected the option of playing the series at an off-shore venue or in South Africa.
The PCB, in a statement, said: "We have written to UCBSA in which we have requested them to postpone the series for a week, review the security situation and reverse the decision. We are also flexible to reschedule the matches. We are doing all this to make South African cricketers realise how important this series is for cricket and people of Pakistan. The PCB is confident that wisdom would prevail in the end and South African cricket team will visit Pakistan.
“The PCB is making desperate efforts and utilising all its contacts to try to make UCBSA change its stand. But as the situation stands at present, we are deeply and utterly disappointed. It (the bomb blast) was an isolated incident and not targeted at anyone, evident from the fact that there were no casualties,” the PCB said.
The PCB added: “We have contacted the International Cricket Council (ICC) which is right behind us. We have also contacted the South African High Commissioner in Islamabad who believes that the UCBSA decision is a ‘hasty one’. We will also try to contact South African Sports Minister and will urge him to use his good offices and convince UCBSA to send its team.”
While the PCB formal statement looks polite and convincing, there is growing resentment behind the scenes, with the Chairman being pressed to review its relations with the ICC and UCBSA. “So far, the PCB Chairman has sustained all pressure in the hope that UCBSA will reverse its decision. But he might have to change his stance if UCBSA stays stubborn,” said a source.
**The PCB officials are also annoyed because of what happened in 1998, when the Pakistan team was touring South Africa under Rashid Latif’s captaincy. Back then, the PCB had supported the UCBSA, and not its players, when the cricketers had threatened to call off the tour after Saqlain Mushtaq and Mohammad Akram were mugged in Johannesburg. The Pakistan cricketers were ordered to stay and complete the tour, resulting in the first Test being delayed for a day.
“The PCB then supported UCBSA and annoyed its players chiefly because it enjoys excellent relations with them. The PCB now believes it is time for the UCBSA to re-pay as they owe something to Pakistan and the PCB. The PCB Chairman is being pressurised by his think-tank to severe ties with UCBSA and ICC if the tour doesn’t take place,” said a PCB official, requesting anonymity. ** :k:
The PCB Chairman held an emergency meeting at the Gaddafi Stadium where he assessed the situation. **"The Chairman has been told by his men that South African cricketers were waiting for an opportunity to cancel the tour as the reports emerging during their tour to England suggested that the South African cricketers were not interested in touring Pakistan. **
“The PCB chief has also been told that the UCBSA had initially requested for the change of Karachi and Peshawar as venues without saying the tour was in jeopardy. But when the UCBSA took the extreme decision (Saturday morning), it never consulted the PCB. So much so, the UCBSA didn’t request the PCB to reschedule the matches from Karachi and Peshawar. The sequence of events leads us to believe that the South African cricketers were never interested in touring Pakistan.”
A PCB official said that the security in South Africa was no better than Pakistan. "When our team went there to play the World Cup, the squad was told not to leave their hotels in the evening because of security. The participating teams obeyed their orders and the tournaments went smoothly without any incident.
**“The UCBSA chief executive can travel to Mumbai, where there were plenty of casualties in a bomb blast a fortnight ago, to attend the ICC conference. But he is backing the decision of its players. It’s an excellent case of double standards and different rules for different set of players.”
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Tension and anger is mounting, not only within the PCB but also amongst the public who had planned to follow the Pakistan team wherever it was due to play South Africa. **The UCBSA’s decision, based on assumptions, has suddenly changed the mindset of the followers in this cricket-mad country, with Graeme Smith’s men now being considered cowardly and unsporting. **
As the match organisers prepare for the fifth and last one-day international against Bangladesh, they fear that there will be protests against UCBSA and its players. “The simple fact is that if the situation was life-threatening, how come the Bangladesh cricketers are playing the last match on Sunday? And how come Mike Procter (from South Africa) is performing his duties? Their lives are as dear as those of the South African cricketers,” said an angry cricket fan.
Chickens.......
In light of the PCB statement above I think that guppies should send emails to the South African board urging them to reconsider. The email addressess are as follows:
Everytime a foreign team cancels a tour to Pakistan, the Pakistani cricket fans jump up and down in anger..... I feel most of it is misdirected... it is a fact that westerners and white-looking people in Pakistan (even those who have no real stake in any Anti-Pak or Anti-Islam activities) have been harmed or killed for no reason ...like Daniel Pearl and those French Naval Engineers for example.... and suicide bombings cannot be stopped by the best of security measures (like the Pak Govt promised to SA). There was one in front of the hotel where the NZ team were scheduled to take the bus last year.
Just for the record..in 1990, .the then Indian captain Srikanth was accosted by a person carrying a knife during a test match in Pakistan.... fortunately he was immobilized before he could do any harm...
I know people will say that didn't Pak tour India when the Shiv Sena activists dug the Kotla pitch and threatened to sabotage the tour. Let me just say that Hindu extremists do not hold a candle to their Muslim counterparts... they might make loud noises but have never really gone beyond damaging pitches and most importantly are not known for suicide bombings which is important from a security stand-point.
My only fear is the Indian Govt. allowing the Indian cricket team to tour Pakistan in the momentum of the ongoing thaw in India-Pak relationship..... till date the Indian govt has refused cricket with Pakistan on political grounds but not on security grounds which is very surprising to me because if there is any country which should be concerned about the safety of its citizens/players in Pakistan it should be India. What is the guarantee that a Harkat-ul-Ansar dude will not lunge from the crowd and blow himself up when the Indian cricket team walks out of the pavillion to take the field. I hope the concern for the safety of the Indian cricket team will not fade in the current India-Pak bhai-bhai maahol
Some1 piss off. Didn't someone just convict some hindutva fundo for killing that Australian priest and his son? Don't make me laugh.
I've e-mailed the board for what it's worth but I think Pakistan might need to take some measures to counter the snub. Maybe we should threaten to cancel the next tour to Zimbabwe as that too is a country which is 'unsafe' according to some. I agree to the threat to severe ties with UCBSA and ICC. The South Africans were well-received in Pakistan last time they were here but I don't know what sort of a reception they'll get next time round if the cancellation stands.
Xtremo, I can respond to that but I will let go as that will trigger the usual India-Pak mudslinging and this thread is about the Pak-SA tour. May be some other time.
Not that it’s going to effect their decision but i have just emailed the chickens/cowards.
I strongly support the idea of not playing the series on neutral or opponent's venue. It’s been long that PCB is polite (or lenient or on knees or whatever you say) to ICC and other cricket boards. Its time that PCB tell ICC and other cricket boards that We are not a 3rd grade cricketing nation and they will not see Pakistan visiting them if they don’t fulfill their commitments to Pakistan. Screw them!
To : [email protected], [email protected]
Dear Sir,
I just came to know that SA has cancelled the tour of Pakistan on "so called" security basis and base of the decision is said to be a small blast in Karachi.
This blast, which local police said is not a targeted one and neither was it an act of terrorism. The blast was a result of a business rivalry between 2 groups and this thing is also obvious due to the fact that this was the 2nd blast in the SAME EMPTY building in a year. Karachi is a home of 140 million people and like any other metropolitan city in the world it does have a crime side of it just like Johannesburg was named most dangerous city of the world in UN's last year list of dangerous cities but this doesn't means that every one should stop visiting the SA and that too with head-of-the-state level security.
If SA had some concerns they should have asked to change the venue (ok they asked for this initially but then the veneus were accepted by SA but again...) rather than canceling the tour all together. Now there is a growing sense in Pakistani public that SA players were never wanted to tour the Pakistan in first place after a long tour of England and they have used this blast as a shield for their decision.
I once again request you guys to review your decision for the better of Cricket of SA and Pakistan. Don't corner the PCB to the extant that they can do nothing but to follow the emotions of Pakistani fans and that's to boycott SA cricket team till they come to Pakistan and complete their tour.
With best wishes
A Pakistani Cricket Fan.
This is what I wrote just for the record:
Dear Sirs,
I am particularly disappointed at the cancellation of the tour to Pakistan as the previous occasion the South Africans were in Pakistan during the world cup the squad led by Hansie Cronje won over the public due to their excellent PR excercises. Bearing in mind that when two of our players were mugged on a later tour of Pakistan yet the PCB insisted they continue the tour I feel that the decison to cancel is hasty to say the least. Further I think that the South African players will be diminished in the eyes of the Pakistan public as many feel that after a long tour of England perhaps they just weren't up for it. I hope for the sake of future relations you will reconsider.
they r bunch of cowards...
Games being cancelled is always a sad thing - particularly for kids who hang by every word of commentary and every stroke of the bat. I hope the grown ups realize how tacitly supporting or not stopping extremists affects not just other countires but ones own.
Some1 I hope you will understand if foreign teams do not wish to visit India after the recent bombings in Bombay.
Pakistan tries to save South Africa cricket tour](http://uk.news.yahoo.com/030920/325/e8zep.html)
KARACHI, Pakistan (Reuters) - Pakistan has sent a revised itinerary to South Africa excluding Karachi as a match venue in a bid to save the cricket tour called off because of security concerns.
Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) spokesman Samiul Hasan told Reuters that the itinerary had been sent to the United Cricket Board of South Africa UCBSA hours after it cancelled its team’s trip to Pakistan due to start next week.
“I can confirm this that the revised itinerary does not include Karachi and has Peshawar/Rawalpindi as the second test match venue,” Hasan said on Saturday.
The UCBSA had earlier this month asked the PCB to switch the matches at Karachi and Peshawar to safer venues due to security concerns.
But the PCB asked the UCBSA to tour according to the original itinerary, which had the South Africans playing a one-day international and a test in Karachi and a test in Peshawar.
The UCBSA cleared the tour on Thursday after a visit by its security delegation to Pakistan, but a bomb blast in Karachi on Friday night caused a change of opinion.
Hasan said the PCB had also sent a letter from its Chairman Tauqir Zia to the UCBSA asking it to reconsider the decision to cancel the tour.
“He (Zia) has also asked them to consider touring Pakistan under the revised itinerary. We are expecting the South Africans to respond soon as time is running out,” Hasan said.
The PCB letter also refers to a past incident when it supported the UCBSA despite the fact its players were unwilling to tour South Africa in 1998 after a mugging incident in Johannesburg.
What a bunch of loosers these South Africans are 
I commend the PCB for taking the high road and sending a revised itinerary proposal instead of resorting to egoistic press fights. Whether S.A accepts or not will indicate their maturity.
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If anyone wishes to protest against the SA decision send an email to:
Bombard them with your emails and let them know of your views.
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I want to protest against PCB, who should I can the email to, and what is the aamir sohail and TZ email address?
useless:(...i think Pakistan has been kicked away from home cricket for a long time yet again...