I don't know why peoples are arguing the nationality of these peoples. Bad peoples are just bad peoples and they are everywhere. I hope those girls will get justice asap. I would further like to add where ever these rascals are living, they are UK nationals not Pakistani..
Doesnt it seem that whenever a Non Resident Pakistani does something good, regardless of what that accomplishment is, or what his country of affiliation, we instantly like to claim him or her as one of us. But as soon as yhey do something bad, suddenly we disown them and claim they are just "bad people.."
Doesnt it seem that whenever a Non Resident Pakistani does something good, regardless of what that accomplishment is, or what his country of affiliation, we instantly like to claim him or her as one of us. But as soon as yhey do something bad, suddenly we disown them and claim they are just "bad people.."
Do you lockup your good people and give good treatment to your bad people. No . Right ?
What we as Pakistani do is normal behavior.
If we would lock up our good people and would hold a party in honor of our criminals then you could have a valid point. But we don't . Do we ?
^ No you do not, but you don't disown the person, they are still just as much 'Pakistani' as they were before they committed the crime. I think what Med911 is trying to say is that you can't pick and choose. They are either British Pakistani's regardless of their criminal record or just British nationals, regardless of their accomplishments.
^ No you do not, but you don't disown the person, they are still just as much 'Pakistani' as they were before they committed the crime. I think what Med911 is trying to say is that you can't pick and choose. They are either British Pakistani's regardless of their criminal record or just British nationals, regardless of their accomplishments.
As soon as someone harms the society he/she does not remain part of the society . The society disowns them and put them into jail and thus they are separated from the society.
The reason why these perpetators are of Pakistani background is because if ay one else challenges them they call their boys so in a way they have silenced large areas of towns and cities in the North of England. Most of these guys are not man enough to get girlfriends over the age of 17 so what they do is target young impressionable girls who because of their cultural background are allowed to stay out late.
The police can't do much because they are accused of being racist. They deserve to be punished severely.
Today it is the white mans daughter, tomorrow it will be ours! Sad thing is most people who know about it think it is ok to do that because they are white. What most do not realise is that they will do it to Asian daughters soon. Many people turn a blind eye to it.....they think its ok she is a Gori they have sex anyway. What they dont realise is there is a difference between having consensual sex and being passed around like sweeties. A significant propertion of Pakistani youths in the UK are very messed up nowadays.
^ Yes but they are still nationals of that country, your nationality can not be stripped from you by someone because they don't like the way they act.
The Pakistanis that go to jail are still Pakistanis and once they have served their time will continue to live on as Pakistani citizens.
Btw sorry OP for completely derailing your thread!
Read your post number 8, OK it would be too much you won't find it for obvious reason let me cut & paste :)
The two links you have posted are not part of a pattern... the brit pakistani thing IS.
Can I now link the pattern of few Indians abroad to 1.2B indians at home?
Indians at home? When did I link this to Pakistanis at home?
I said it was a concern to Brit Pakistanis. Brit Pakistanis compared to American or Canadian Pakistanis overall have lower education and money.. and more crime. Almost every decent educated Brit Pakistani will tell you this. How about you read the GS threads that I posted? It's full of Brit Pakistanis confirming the above. Or you can just read some other posts on this thread instead of pursuing your e-jihad @ me :D
I am a british Pakistani, and have tons of family there including parents and brother,
there are some very distinct type of people of Pakistani background there.
these thugs almost always hail from essentially uneducated backgrounds from families who got here due to lax immigration, illegal means or came to work as unskilled factory workers
they may have gone through minimal education as mandated there but they come from families where education is not important
same type of families which have been notorious for forced marriages and honor killings. There is a large number of this type, which is the reason when you look at school performance on avg of british pakistanis, its almost at the bottom. Those nutjob type of groups, like mohjiroun, ghurabaa etc are filled by their types mostly.
its 2 different worlds there for Brit Paks..or more..people may hail from geographical areas which are not too far from one another, but they might as well be from different eras and universes. This ghetto brit pak is the same as the ghetto algerian moroccan gangs in france.
These people and their parents would be out of place in a civilized part of a pakistani city, let alone a western country.
Buncha sick $#@*s
Indians at home? When did I link this to Pakistanis at home?
I said it was a concern to Brit Pakistanis. Brit Pakistanis compared to American or Canadian Pakistanis overall have lower education and money.. and more crime. Almost every decent educated Brit Pakistani will tell you this. How about you read the GS threads that I posted? It's full of Brit Pakistanis confirming the above. Or you can just read some other posts on this thread instead of pursuing your e-jihad @ me :D
Your talking about Pakistans last I checked Pakis lived on planet earth unlike Indians who live in a different universe. Playing with words ain't make no jack difference. You keep ducking like all Indians and play with symantics..
Tell us bad Pakis what would you call Indians committing crimes abroad? you will call that an Indian pattern regardless of the universe they live in?
If you still don't get it due to saffron education I can explain in fine details.
Do you lockup your good people and give good treatment to your bad people. No . Right ?
What we as Pakistani do is normal behavior.
If we would lock up our good people and would hold a party in honor of our criminals then you could have a valid point. But we don't . Do we ?
Lets face it, regardless of which passport they hold, people of Pakistani heritage living in any part of the world reflect on all of us. If a British Pakistani commits a crime, in the eyes of the British, ALL Pakistanis are suspect.
Sure criminals are criminals everywhere. But in the case of the British Pakistanis, there seems to be a disproportionately larger number of them. Whatever the reason, we have to acknowledge there is a problem among British Pakistanis that needs to be handled. Denying there is a problem will not change anything.
We need to not only accept the successful and decent Pakistanis, but also the bad eggs as well.
Your talking about Pakistans last I checked Pakis lived on planet earth unlike Indians who live in a different universe. Playing with words ain't make no jack difference. You keep ducking like all Indians and play with symantics..
Tell us bad Pakis what would you call Indians committing crimes abroad? you will call that an Indian pattern regardless of the universe they live in?
If you still don't get it due to saffron education I can explain in fine details.
HAHAHAHAHAH You just keep rambling on the same thing? Do you not read my messages? I am talking about Brit Pakistanis. Not Pakistanis as a whole.
HAHAHAHAHAH You just keep rambling on the same thing? Do you not read my messages? I am talking about Brit Pakistanis. Not Pakistanis as a whole.
What a joker!
And I thought Indias had lot of space between ears but you even beat em hands down, LAMO............... Start right at the top and see if you can comprehend, try one line at a time...
Doesnt it seem that whenever a Non Resident Pakistani does something good, regardless of what that accomplishment is, or what his country of affiliation, we instantly like to claim him or her as one of us. But as soon as yhey do something bad, suddenly we disown them and claim they are just "bad people.."
Its my perspective..i may be wrong :)
Whenever people of US do some great discovery or achieve anything good, they make it large by saying """Its a great achievement for humankind"" on the other hand whenever people from our country achieve something we say "we are proud to be Punjabi or Pakistani or Indian" by saying this we make that achievement small. We never say its a great achievement for Humankind by a Human.
I remember when Jay Sean signed Cash Money Records and his first single was on Top 10, I saw people fighting on youtube arguing his nationality but the truth is he is UK born and I enjoy his songs regardless of his nationality. We act like dogs marking individual boundaries by peeeeing here and there making it worst. Simple thing is Good is good and bad is bad..
I don't know why peoples are arguing the nationality of these peoples. Bad peoples are just bad peoples and they are everywhere. I hope those girls will get justice asap.QUOTE]
I grew up in Bradford and you have explained that area perfectly. Too many parents turn a blind eye to what their sons are up to, they know they are out chasing after under age white girls but as long as they marry their first cousin from Pakistan who cares!
Unfortunately it’s not just the dumb uneducated British Pakistanis that tarnish our name, these lot were successful businessmen .
To me these men are neither Pakistanis or Muslims. Only a filthy animal would ply a child with alcohol and pass her around for sex. And if these people act like animals they should be treated like animals. Unfortunately they will end up in a cushy jail with television and 3 meals a day.
The guys all seem to come from so-called ‘conservative’ families.. married or going to be married to their cousins from back in Pakistan.. I bet even their own mothers blame the white girls in these situations as well.. Like you said the parents just tend to turn a blind eye.. Apparently the gang all lived near each other so hard to believe that others aroung there couldn’t see what was going on esp considering the bit highlighted below in blue and knowing just how tight-knit desi families usually are..