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Why do you think that pointing bitter truth makes you writing above nonsense? Read my post # 26 and then write. Are you denying that Punjabi Talibans do not exist?

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Read the following news item. My logic is based on truth. After reading following news, who do you think bears highest responsibility?

Shi’ite leader challenges Pakistan army chief over attacks -The Laredo Sun -World News

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Pakistani journalists chant slogans during a protest against bomb blasts in Quetta and condemn killings of members of the media, outside the press club in Karachi January 11, 2013. The banner reads in Urdu “we wholeheartedly salute our martyr brothers”. REUTERS/Athar Hussain

**Shi’ite leader challenges Pakistan army chief over attacks

****In a rare challenge, a Shi’ite Muslim leader publicly criticized Pakistani military chief General Ashfaq Kayani over security in the country on Friday after bombings targeting the minority sect killed 118 people.

**The criticism of Kayani, arguably the most powerful man in the South Asian state, highlighted Shi’ite frustrations with Pakistan’s failure to contain Sunni Muslim militant groups who have vowed to wipe out Shi’ites.
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“I ask the army chief: What have you done with these extra three years you got (in office)? What did you give us except more death?” Maulana Amin Shaheedi, who heads a national council of Shi’ite organizations, told a news conference.

Shaheedi said scores of bodies were still lying on a road. “They will not be buried until the army comes into Quetta.”

**The banned Sunni group Lashkar-e-Jangvi (LeJ) claimed responsibility for the attack in what is a predominantly Shi’ite neighborhood where the residents are ethnic Hazaras, Shi’ites who first migrated from Afghanistan in the 19th century.
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While U.S. intelligence agencies have focused on al Qaeda and the Taliban, Pakistani intelligence officials say LeJ is emerging as a graver threat to Pakistan, a nuclear-armed, strategic ally of the United States.
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**The paramilitary Frontier Corps is largely responsible for security in Baluchistan province but Shi’ites say it is unable or unwilling to protect them from the LeJ.

“STATE OF SIEGE”**

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The LeJ wants to impose a Sunni theocracy by stoking Sunni-Shi’ite violence. It bombs religious processions and shoots civilians in the type of attacks that pushed countries like Iraq towards civil war.
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**The latest attacks prompted an outpouring of grief, rage and fear among Shi’ites, many of whom have concluded that the state has left them at the mercy of the LeJ and other extremist groups who believe they are non-Muslims.
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“The LeJ operates under one front or the other, and its activists go around openly shouting ‘infidel, infidel, Shi’ite infidel’ and ‘death to Shi’ites’ in the streets of Quetta and outside our mosques,” said Syed Dawwod Agha, a top official with the Baluchistan Shi’ite Conference.
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“We have become a community of grave diggers. We are so used to death now that we always have shrouds ready.”
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The roughly 500,000-strong Hazara people in Quetta, who speak a Persian dialect, have distinct features and are an easy target, said Dayan of Human Rights Watch.
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“They live in a state of siege. Stepping out of the ghetto means risking death,****” said Dayan. “Everyone has failed them - the security services, the government, the judiciary.”

**Earlier on Thursday, a separate bomb killed 11 people in Quetta’s main market.

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The United Baloch Army claimed responsibility for that blast. The group is one of several fighting for independence for Baluchistan, an arid, impoverished region with substantial gas, copper and gold reserves.
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Baluchistan constitutes just less than half of Pakistan’s territory and is home to about 8 million of the total population of 180 million.

**The LeJ has had historically close ties to elements in the security forces, who see the group as an ally in any potential war with neighboring India. Security forces deny such links.

(Additional reporting by Mehreen Zahra-Malik and Katharine Houreld in Islamabad and Matthew Green in Lahore.; Writing by Katharine Houreld; Editing by Mark Heinrich)

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..Army is not responsible for coming into Quetta and restoring peace. It is not Gen. Kayani's job to do that. The army will come in only if and when the civilian govt asks them to do so. And in case you dont remember, we have a piss-poor government at the helm right now.

And just to elaborate on that bit in the news that you quoted, i-e, Pak Army was drawn into the Afghan mess by that dumb ass known as Zulfikar bhutto.

Beyond that, I feel it is truly useless to debate against ...a mindset that you are a part of.

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So Taliban are acceptable and Punjabis are not. It's ok if Talpurs and Jatois kill people (nobody in this country can condemn them.. no judiciary has any right to take notice of any murder committed by them) .. even taliban kill people it's alright.. but only Punjabis are b@st@rds according to you.

Moreover it's ok to kill Punjabis but killing people from KP, Sindh Baluchistan is not acceptable. If army kills someone it must be Punjabi.. but if taliban kill army they must be Punjabi taliban.. The only bad people amongst Taliban, army, British, Karachi residents.. in fact in the world are Punjabis.. rest are all angels..!!!

Obviously you are not racist at all.. people who read your posts and imply that you are racist are some kind of idiots..

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I never said that. All I said that TTP or Punjabi Taliban linked to army, which I have gave you the links to refresh your minds. These Punjabi Taliban or LJ are killing in three provinces. Just google the statistics of killing of innocent people by these b@stards. Papa Qadri's procession at the same time and now Jamat-e-Hami's asking government to resign and hand over power to military. CJ have pain when some minor incident occur and malign the government by suo motas. When it comes to killings of hundreds/ thousands of people by organization LJ or TTP this man is quiet. Why? Isn't he the one who released LJ's leader after 14 years of jail, and who is now hell bent on killing of shias in three provinces? .

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You mean LEJ has sympathetic corner for shias in Punjab.. and they just want to kill shias in three other provinces..

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/316946-22-die-200-injured-at-chakwal-imambargah-suicide-bombing.html

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Again I never said that.

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May be you don't mean it.. but you are continuously saying that my dear friend. In these testing times instead of accusing each other on ethnic grounds.. we should identify criminals as criminals.. irrespective of the facts that they are Punjabis.. or Talpurs or Jatois..

Anyone who-so-ever doing a crime against any citizen of Pakistan who-so-ever.. is a criminal. Criminal should not win any sympathy from anyone who-so-ever on what-so-ever ground. Means no sympathy for Punjabi criminals.. and no sympathy for Jatoi-Talpur criminals..

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Just want to point out one fact that most of the high profile attacks on the army (kamra , GHQ, PNS , Naval war college,FIA and ISI) have been Carried out by Punjabi taleban.

There is a difference in TTP and Punjabi taleban.

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You probably did not. But unfortunately to most posters here, thats how it came off. So its best to read your post again and again before posting so that any ethnic bias or dislike is not apparent. Just a friendly advice. For now :)

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^ Kya ho Gaya :(

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What I said is the truth. I have openened a thread a few day ago. It should be concerned for every one living in Pakistan that the target of these animals are mostly from three provinces. Definitely blame is on the army and intelligence and CJ. Had Punjab also involved in these merciless killings, Kyani and CJ would have acted differently.

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I don’t consider them different. They are part of the bigger problem. These animals can not function without the support of intelligence agencies.

Taliban make deadly inroads into Punjab - Central Asia Online

SLAMABAD – A growing connection between Punjab-based militant organisations and the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) is posing security threats in the relatively peaceful province of Punjab.

“No doubt, all militant groups from Punjab have strong contacts with the TTP,” said Akhunzada Chittan, a Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) parliamentarian representing Bajaur Agency.

For example, three militants associated with the mid-August attack on the Minhas airbase in Kamra whom authorities have identified came from Punjab, but they might have been trained in the tribal areas, Chittan said.
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“The growing relationship in (Punjab-based) urbanites and tribal (TTP) militants is bringing sophistication in militants’ activities,” Hasan Belal Zaidi, a senior journalist who covers the Punjab militancy for the Islamabad-based Pakistan Today, told Central Asia Online.

The developing relationship is helping the militants in several respects, Zaidi said. It has expanded the network of safe havens for extremists; second, the united force of extremists has proven more capable of crimes such as kidnappings, building a broader base of funding for the militants.

“The growing sophistication in TTP activities might be due to influence of the Punjabi Taliban as they (Punjabi) are mostly educated, urbanised and culturally better off,” Zaidi said.

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The difference is probably Raja Sanaullah and other idiots being friends with these terrorist organizations.

See link: LeJ

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There is no need to argue with stubborn people :wink: jo apni he hanktay rahain gaiay aur kabhi naheen mangay gaiy, chullu bhar paani kaafi hay unn k liye aab :cb:

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