Re: Readin' Naats and Hamd?
NO, you said "your words against Quran" when replying to my thread.
I am still in shock. Please edit your thread to say exactly what you meant.
Re: Readin' Naats and Hamd?
NO, you said "your words against Quran" when replying to my thread.
I am still in shock. Please edit your thread to say exactly what you meant.
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^ I explained here already, still SHOCKED?
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Yes, until you edit your original post.
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Shock and awe ahem ![]()
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[QUOTE] The first Naats were written by a great companion of RasoolAllah Sallallahu Alayhi wa sallam....His name was Hassaan bin Thabit.
I knew that Hassan ibn thabit(ra) was a great poet I dont believe he ever used musical instruments
but these modern naats on TV with musical instruments are they allowed?
when did they start
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You re right......there has been absolutely no use of music with naat until the eras of Qawaalis....that too another thing specific to subcontinent......
I can't issue a statement on right or wrong....but personally I don't like it.My family (parents side) doesn't approve it as a right thing.
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well said :k:
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According to your ideas, an innovation (bid'a) is something that did not exist at the time of Mohammed and hence should be avoided. So get off your computer right now, unplug it, and throw it out of the window. Come to think of it, electricity is also bid'a. Live in the dark, or else…
Why would we not celebrate something that reminds us of Moahmmed's (p.b.u.h) life and gives us a day to think of him and the great message he brought to us?
A very simple and straightforward rule in Fiqh: If it isn't explicitly haram in the Quran AND it is not a bad thing, then it is halal.
If it is unislamic then so would taking a tylenol to relieve a headache. Would you believe that the tylenol is THE agent that is relieving your headache? The One answering the dua is Allah and only Allah.
Now, the real question is whether there is "good " innovation and "Bad" innovation in Islam . For example now in the two Holy Mosque they pray Salat Tahajud (night prayer) after salat tarawih behind one Imam leading it , this is an innovation that was never done by Prophet or his companion or the two generations after them. No one is objecting about it , Why objecting about Milad!
If the Prophet (as) and his companions and the two generations after them did not do certain thing, does not mean that they made that thing prohibited. the proof is the Prophet's saying, "whoever establish in Islam, a good practice...." This is the strongest evidence that give encouragement to innovate whatever practices have foundations in religious law. Even if Prophet and his companion did not do them. Al Shafi'i said, "Anything that has a foundation in religious law, is not a innovation...." Therefore whoever prohibits anything based on the concept that the prophet did not do it, his claim has no proof and must be rejected. There is a large number of things that the prophet did not do nor did his companion, the generation after the companion, or the generation after. For instance, Congrengating poeple behind one Imam to pray Salat, Tahajjud after Salat Tarawih, in the two holy Mosques and other Mosques. Founding organizations which did not exist during the time of the prophet, such as, Islamic universities, Societies for commiting the Qu'ran to memory, and others.
Here is an other "Innov" , to designate the 27th night of Shahru Ramadan to complete the reading of the entire Qur'an in the two Holy Mosques.
By daring to say what you guys are saying, you accuse the scholars of Islam of Innovation. if we go with the idea that we must only do what the Rasuul (AS) did. I got a big list of the "Nowhere did" here is a list of the nowhere syndrom. The compiling of the Qur'an The Maqam of Ibrahim (as) Omar (ra) moved it back... Adding the first call to prayer on Friday. Usman (ra) added one before the Imam sat... And there is more , if they were like you they would stagnate on the "nowhere land ".
What we fail to understand is that Muslims gether to show happiness and grattitude for the Prophet (P.B.U.H) to express love for the Rasuul (AS) is obligatory and to love him more than yourself is Farz and it is of the highest order. To show happinees and grattitud and love for the gift of God which is the "rahmatul lil alameen " is NOT an act of worship....
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^ I agree with most of what you are saying( except the electricity part)
but musical instruments in Naat should not be used this is something that was explicitly forbidden
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The music being forbidden is crystal clear. There is no question about that.
I was being sarcastic about the electricity part, if you didn't notice.
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You really have no idea of definition of biddah. Sorry I laughed at it. The day I start claiming that use of computer is an ibada (something which will give sawab) that will surely be a bidda. But comeon do you really not know the defintion or are you playing innocent now?
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I was being sarcastic about the electricity part, if you didn't notice.
I did ....but it this example was not appropriate since computers are not an innovation in religion
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don’t be ignorant and read my entire post to have a proper argument on the real subject.
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Do it everyday, I don’t have a problem, say darood million times a day :k: but the way I see being done it ![]()
Who decides if it is “bad” or not"? That rule is not used under all circumstances.
Again, get a grip on emotions. We take the pain-killer and pray that Allah provide us relief thru this medicine.
What is salat Taraweeh? I sincerely hope you know it.
I’ll leave rest of your comments as I do not wish to further indulge into this “behes”, as neither you will take my words nor will I. If you would like to discuss please feel free to open thread in religion section ![]()
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I disagree with all of you.
Hamd is something that is praise of Allah:swt:
Praise of Allah:swt: is something that has no boundary. You can praise him in any way in any language in anything, it always in-sufficient. Praising Him is Ibaadah for Quran asks us to call Him with His names and all good names belong to him. In Quran it is stated that if all the trees will become pen and all the oceans will become Ink, it will not be enough.
Naat is something that is the Sunnah of a Sahaabi:razi: Syedana Owais-e-Qarani:razi: …
Remember the famous Naat of the girls of Yathrib upon the arrival of Muhammadur Rasoolulah:saw:
Talaa Al Bad’r-O-Alaina
Min Sa’ni yaatil Widaai
Wajabash Shukro Alaina
Maa daa’aa LillahaY Daai!
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since when are we suppose to follow the sunnah of the sahabis? We are told to follow the Prophet(saww) not his companions.
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only Ahl-e-salaf will say that.. that is not the aqeedah of Ahnaaf. If you are from Salafi school of thought, then you dun have to. I will continue to follow the companions for guidance as well besides Prophet:saw:…
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I agree with Captain1 and Lajawab. It's much easier to sing praises about the prophet (pbuh) than to actually follow him.
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I agree with you Bro. As for those who wanna know why not only darood why Hamd-o-Naat … I wud like to quote an incident that I heard of as a child:
Once upon a time, Hazrat Musa :as: heard a man sitting alone, talking to God. The man had learnt about God through Prophet Musa’s preeching. The man was saying, "Oh God, I have heard such beatiful things about you. You are so nice, so sweet. I wish if I had you here, I would wash your hair, put oil and comb them nicely. I would bathe you and put on purfume and nice clothes on you … " When Prophet Musa :as: heard that, he got angry at the man. He told him to say Ustaghfaar for he should not be saying such things about God. It’s almost a sin referring to God in these terms. The poor fellow fell down upon his knees, crying in regret and pain, apologizing for his mistake. When Prophet Musa :as: reached Koh-e-Toor, God said to him, “Musa, I did not like what you said to that man. You broke his heart. All he was doing was to praise me and express his love for me in his sincerity”!
I hope I don’t have to narrate the moral of the story… And only God knows the truth!
P.S. For those who are talking about the musical instruments: For your information the naat, “Tala-al Badru aleina” on the arrival of Muhammad :saw: was said or sung with “Duff” which was the most popular musical instrument of the Arab at that time. So long there is no disrespect, I have no problem with that. Like Naat of Abdul-Rauf Roofi, excellent naats. May Allah give him Ajr-e-Azeem for saying such beautiful naats that people listen to the praise of Prophet Muhammad :saw: more often than they could otherwise.
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AQ Please dont label me, I am a muslim.
So why do you follow the companions?