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I see my pakistani brothers are still living in denial and defending their jihadi cousins. Days pass by, more proofs surface but the denial stays strong.
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Yup, sounds like a RAW agent to me.
Julum aur Jiadti----Yep its authentic Pakistani!:D
One of the reports clearly said that when the terrorists killed the fishermen in the sea, they took materials from them to look like Hindus! .
That story is baloney. Indian media interviewed the fishermen. They said they didn't see the terrorists dock in their area because the entire fishing colony of 20 thousand was watching cricket. yea...right.
Wasn’t this call reported to be hoax? It was an Indian guppy either simplyme or zxcvb who said this call was a hoax.
Wasn't this call reported to be hoax? It was an Indian guppy either simplyme or zxcvb who said this call was a hoax.
Well well well,,,,now you dont believe it was hoax...damn why indian guppies keep changing their stories when it suites them. It was all over the media that it was fake call. And also I believe first time police admitted that terrorists were more then 10 and they could be about 24?
How they will keep the boat story intact then? so those 24 fit in that little boat or did they came in two or three different boats? Please enlighten me.....first they find a bomb on train station after a week, then they arrest two guys after a week, and I believe one who got caught they admit he is an Indian, so would they attack themself now as well?
I believe at the end of the day hopefully one day there will be an investigation and they will believe they was all indians.
Well well well,,,,now you dont believe it was hoax...damn why indian guppies keep changing their stories when it suites them. It was all over the media that it was fake call. And also I believe first time police admitted that terrorists were more then 10 and they could be about 24?
How they will keep the boat story intact then? so those 24 fit in that little boat or did they came in two or three different boats? Please enlighten me.....first they find a bomb on train station after a week, then they arrest two guys after a week, and I believe one who got caught they admit he is an Indian, so would they attack themself now as well?
I believe at the end of the day hopefully one day there will be an investigation and they will believe they was all indians.
You are probably confusing someone (Faheem Ansari?) who was caught like 10 months ago with the latest catch, I agree in general stories were all over the place and we still don't see them converging to a point yet.
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Cat’s out of the bag.
FARIDKOT, near Depalpur, Pakistan — The lone gunman captured alive by Indian police during last week’s terrorist attack on Mumbai comes from a dirt-poor village in Pakistan’s southern Punjab region where a banned Islamist group has been actively recruiting young men for “jihad,” according to residents of the village and official records seen by McClatchy Newspapers.
Ajmal Ameer Kasab, the dark haired 21-year-old man arrested by Indian authorities in the first hours of the assault – in which over 170 people died – left the village four years ago, several residents said. He would return once a year to see small family home and one villager recalled him talking about freeing the Muslim-dominated region of Kashmir from India.
His origins are a key to the investigation of the attack and could have a profound impact on relations between nuclear-armed India and Pakistan, already at the brink of confrontation. Until now, the Pakistan government has repeatedly said that there was no solid evidence to back Indian accusations that the gunmen came from Pakistan.
A McClatchy reporter visited the village three times in four days and obtained official electoral records, which showed that Ajmal’s parents, as named by the Indian authorities, indeed reside in the village.
At the time of the first visit on Wednesday, there was no sign of Pakistan plainclothes police. But village mayor, Ghulam Mustafa Wattoo, confirmed that a man named Ameer lives in Faridkot, with a son named Ajmal. But he said Ameer claimed his son was not the man captured by Indian authorities.
But everything in the village fit the details leaked from the Indian police interrogation of Ajmal. Indian police identified the father as Mohammad Ameer, who earns a meager living selling home-made snacks from a mobile cart, and his wife as Noor. At the tiny family house, located on a narrow street deep inside Faridkot, the McClatlchy reporter on a second visit Friday noted a mobile food cart lying in the courtyard.
Ameer, 44 and his wife, Noor, 47, were nowhere to be found. According to several villagers, who asked not to be named for their own security, “a bearded mullah” took them away during the night, likely, they thought, to be a member of Lashkar-e-Taiba, the Islamic extremist group accusing of being behind the Mumbai attack.
Wattoo led the visiting reporter to Ameer’s house, where an elderly man named Sultan and a mid-aged woman named Miraj, who identified themselves as relatives, said the occupants had gone away “for a wedding.”
But they gave inconsistent and changing stories, sometimes confirming that Ameer lives there, at other times denying it. The mayor, too, had attempted to delay the visit of a McClatchy reporter to the house Friday and changed his story at times. As a result of the delay, plainclothes Pakistani security officials got to the house before the reporter, and they appeared to have coached the occupants to throw visitors off the trail.
A villager, who asked not to be named for his own safety, told McClatchy: “These people are telling you lies. We know that boy (caught in Mumbai) is from Faridkot. We knew from the first night (of the attack).”
Shown a picture of Ajmal, he confirmed it was the young man from the village.
“They brainwash our youth about jihad, there are people who do it in this village. They tell them they’ll get a ticket to heaven. It is so wrong,” the villager added.
Another resident said separately that he recognized the face in the photograph, though he later changed his mind when other villagers crowded around.
“He (Ameer) has lived here for a few years,” said villager Mohammad Taj, an agriculturalist, who thought his age was around 50. “He has three sons and three daughters.”
Noor Ahmed, 45, a local farmer said: “He (Ameer) had a stall he pushed around, sometimes here, sometimes elsewhere. He was a meek man, he hasn’t particularly religious. He just made ends meet and didn’t quarrel with anyone.”
Residents said that Faridkot and the surrounding area, including a nearby village called Tara Singh, are a hotbed for recruitment for Lashkar-e-Taiba.
The nazim or mayor of Tara Singh, Rao Zaeem Haider, said: “There is a religious trend here. Some go for jihad but not too many.”
Ajmal, who had little or no schooling, has been gone from Faridkot for about four years but would return to see his family once a year, said several locals. One said he would talk about freeing the Kashmir region from Indian rule when he returned, - the main aim of Lashkar-e-Taiba.
Ajmal was the only one of 10 men involved in the operation to be captured, and he’s the main source for all the disclosures about the operation that have been leaked by the Indian police. He was captured within hours of the launch of the operation.
The 10 men are alleged to have seized a fishing trawler and killed the crew, then in the vicinity of Mumbai harbor, killed the captain and transferred to a small rubber dinghy to reach the shore in mid- evening Nov. 26. They fanned out in at least three groups and attacked the main rail station, the Café Leopold, a budget restaurant, and then entered the Jewish center, where they took hostages.
Gunmen then attacked the Taj Mahal hotel and the Oberoi Hotel and Towers. It took 2-1/2 days before special military commandos and other security forces killed the nine gunmen and regained control of the city of 13 million.
There are several Faridkots in Pakistan and one in India, and McClatchy’s weeklong search for the home village of the captured suspect was complicated by incorrect details of the location published in the Indian news media.
The Faridkot from which Ajmal came is near the town of Depalpur, in the Okara district in southern Punjab
Many residents and local plainclothes police now appear to be trying to cover up Ajmal’s connection with the village. By Saturday, the atmosphere turned hostile, and several reporters who went to Fardikot were roughed up, witnesses said by phone.
Faridkot mayor Wattoo at first denied the village was home to Ajmal Ameer Kasab. “There is a man here called Ameer, he pushed a snack cart around. He came to see me because he was very worried about reports on the news about an Ajmal from Faridkot being caught. But he told me that the boy they caught is not his Ajmal,” Wattoo said.
Wattoo had also said there had been no local police investigation of whether Ajmal came from this Faridkot. At another village called Faridkot, near a town called Khanewal, also visited by McClatchy, there had been marked police and intelligence presence.
McClatchy obtained the official electoral records for Faridkot, which falls under union council number 5, tehsil (area) Depalpur, district Okara. The list of 478 registered voters shows a Mohammad Ameer, married to Noor Elahi, living in Faridkot. McClatchy has the national identity card numbers for both husband and wife.
Residents said that the family belonged to a clan of butchers, for which the local word is Kasab or Kasai. There is no tradition of surnames in rural Pakistan, and individuals take the names of their profession or tribe. Ajmal told Indian police his surname is Kasab, according to news reports.
Faridkot is dirt-poor with a remote feel, despite being close to a town. Most people have little education and live in poverty. On the side of a building, just outside Faridkot, graffiti in large lettering says, in Urdu, “Go for jihad. Go for jihad. Markaz Dawat ul-Irshad”. MDI is the parent organization of Lashkar-e-Taiba. In nearby Depalpur, there is a banner on the side of the main street that asks people to devote goat skins to Jamaat ud Dawa, another MDI offshoot.
Hafiz Saeed, founder of Lashkar-e-Taiba, had visited the nearby town of Depalpur to give speeches, where there were “hundreds” of supporters, locals said. There was a Lashkar-e-Taiba office in Depalpur but that was hurriedly closed in the last few days, they said. The Lashkar-e-Taiba newspaper is distributed in Depalpur and Faridkot. The area lies in the south of Punjab province, an economically backward area long known for producing jihadists.
(Shah is a McClatchy special correspondent)
Now where is this new Faridkot? :smack: I was able to find Dipalpur but there is no Faridkot close by, closest Faridkot is in India. BTW there is Jalalabad in India between Faridkot (India) and Dipalpur Pakistan 
This article seems much more authentic and seems to be accurate compared to what we have seen so far. Finally a reporter was able to locate parents of Ajmal Ameer Kasab who are removed by LeT leaders for attending “wedding”.
Now we don’t have option other than to complete shut-down of LeT, arrest all involved and punish accordingly, these guys have brought Pakistan and India close to another war.
This article seems much more authentic and seems to be accurate compared to what we have seen so far. Finally a reporter was able to locate parents of Ajmal Ameer Kasab who are removed by LeT leaders for attending "wedding".
Now we don't have option other than to complete shut-down of LeT, arrest all involved and punish accordingly, these guys have brought Pakistan and India close to another war.
This article is authentic because it fits your propaganda. Pakistan Intelligence checked everything and there is no one with that name. And you bring this guys article who is making his money with this article, same is so many other articles appearing from different researcher. Faridkot must be full of reporters then and according to the article villagers are so poor with no education. I am sure these reporters must be talking to them in English and they all getting hold of voters list wow.
Why not check his DNA that will be authentic, stop beating the same drum again and again to prove that he is pakistani. You better interrogate those who you arrested in India (two guys) they will tell you which village in India those guys belong to. Or ask your Govt to show Ajmal Ameer Kasab interview on media.
This article is authentic because it fits your propaganda. Pakistan Intelligence checked everything and there is no one with that name. And you bring this guys article who is making his money with this article, same is so many other articles appearing from different researcher. Faridkot must be full of reporters then and according to the article villagers are so poor with no education. I am sure these reporters must be talking to them in English and they all getting hold of voters list wow.
Why not check his DNA that will be authentic, stop beating the same drum again and again to prove that he is pakistani. You better interrogate those who you arrested in India (two guys) they will tell you which village in India those guys belong to. Or ask your Govt to show Ajmal Ameer Kasab interview on media.
I am as much hurt as you are, I am as much Indian as you are, I am as much Pakistani as you are :p, now spare me the "you".
You have a choice to stay in denial or come to the terms with reality. I never believed Indian propaganda, but this article is as close as it can get.
All of us first said "there is no Faridkot in Pakistan, guess how many Faridkots we have? Many of us believed Zaid Hamid's conspiracy theories, I didn't but I did have the doubts of his facial features as he looked someone from western India. But this reporter went to his village where some people tried to cover it up while some did spill the bean.
Now we can bury our heads in the sand and say no its false or we can say yes he is bad apple of our society lets arrest his network.
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Indian Hindoos
Indian Muslims
http://www.ynetnews.com/PicServer2/20122005/892549/JMU103_wa.jpg
Loads of difference.
Its not hard to find difference between Indian Muslims and Indian Hindoos, just like Indian Parsis who look totally different.
So what does Zaid Hamid say about the parents/Faridkot-residence of Ajmal Amir? :aq:
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Indians have to get out in open and bring these people in to the camera lights and do open trial.
Basing any conclusion on reporters running around/fishing around different houses and cities, villages is not smart.
Its just sensible that before these people get brainwashed or threatened, open media brings them to the eyes of world. More these people are hidden, more ground for suspicion specially after Samjhota express event.
Nothing wrong in bringing 'truth' out in the open.
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So how many here still don't believe Jihadis were responsible?
So how many here still don't believe Jihadis were responsible?
Learn what is Jihad first then talk to us. Jihad is not killing innocent civilians. Call them terrorists, killers (not jihadis)
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I see more people blowing stuff up in the name of Jihad than indulging in Charity work in the name of jihad. So I really dont care what the RIGHT definition is because that is just your interpretatio vs their interpretation, Either way I do not want to offend your beliefs right now.
Back to the question, how many here still believe it was RAW and MOSSAD responsible instead of the terrorists based in Pakistan comitting these acts in the name of Jihad?
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Mods, why is this indian guy allowed to post hatred on Pakistani discussion boards?
The board is for Paks..... its our internal discussion, pls ask him to take his views somewhere else (preferably to indian boards).
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Zaid Hamid is a moron. He is such a stooge and a maulana in Western clothing.
We need non-fanatics with persuasive powers to be able to make a good impression and get our points across. Ranting against Jews and Hindus can get your applause in certain circles but makes you look like a joker.
Given all that is happeneing with the raids against Lashkar-e-Tayba camps and arrests of their commanders, all these guys look like fools for coming up with conspiracy theories.
We would have been better off responding rationally but firmly that we will act against terrorists but will not allow anyone to attack our territory without a disproportionate response.
Talk softly but carry a big stick is the idea. Now we shouted loudly and caved in like weaklings.