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I think putting scholars like him on a Pedestal is the biggest mistake, that we make and we are being very unfair to them and ourselves. His podcast with Mooroo was outstanding regardless of his political views. Just like the views of Maulana Wahiddudin khan, Israr Ahmed, Maulana Ishaq, Tariq Jameel etc, he is also allowed to make error in his judgments, his is not Mahdi AS, he is not infallible.

The revolution, that MA Mirza has started will have long-term implications on the role of Pakistani or Urdu speaking Muslims in this world. The kind of Shia -Sunni hate you get to see in Turks, Persians, and Arabs, you will not see in Pakistanis or Bengalis it’s because of scholars like him who re-kindled the idea that we may not be at least, so different at all. The renaissance of Islam is not possible without solving this sunni-shia communal hate and I see a big role of Pakistanis in this, in times to come.

P.S. I don’t go with his political views as he is not a political scientist, a degree he should pursue. His constant Musharraf bashing, and his uncanny support for a secular spectrum in Pakistan is something I may never agree with, but hey let’s give him the benefit of doubt, he is nothing but just one man, too much on his plate and too much to be answerable for.
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She is already on a pedestal burning with sheer rage. All you have to do is read some of her last chaotic posts and observe how she is on the verge of a massive massive mental breakdown, a skull ready to explode any forthcoming minute. If the aunt hellfire in charge of the gallows for some reason does not agree with you, she for sure will resort to flaming you needlessly. Only because she thinks you’re extremely cute though :smiley:

I apologize for the confusion there, by putting him on the pedestal, I meant putting the scholar, Engineer MA Mirza on the pedestal.

At first I thought it was @Bobby1 so I tried to argue a bit with that in mind. But someone else told me that it was not, and reminded me of her old nick. She was not at all like that. Not good to argue in such situations. I have best wishes for her.

I’ll be honest, I learned considerably huge knowledge about Islam from his lectures. But Im sure the religious scholars do not know much about the political threats, the players behind those threats / saazishes so they should be very careful not to be influenced by the exploiters. There are too many exploiters of the enemy who do not wish this country to remain.

Shaping the whole country’s population’s mind to accept india as GOD is by careful design. Sure the jahalat of (fake) molvies has added to that exploitation of general population. Due to those fake molvies & their jahalat & the ahalat of the so called educated & intellectuals, the world’s powerful think it is better to annex Pakistan to india or weaken it. & no opportunity is left out to achieve that goal.

Infact, there are lectures from Mohammed enginner ali mirza which are very informatory. Any born muslims with little to no knowledge of Islam will find his lectures valuable as far as the basic facts & knowledge is concerned. The issues other Islamic scholars have with him is on more complicated matters. Like his stance on Tiraawaih prayer & similar other topics which come on a more advance level for a new revert or born muslims with little knowledge that wish to learn more. I still listen to his point of view when something is not clear to me. Recently, I was listening to his stance on the correct ‘dua-e-qanoot’ that should be recited in Witr as was taught by the prophet PBUH. Well, obviously, muslims must recite the original dua as was taught by the prophet & not any other. But Pakistani molvies have made an issue out of that too & in Pakistan, the original dua-e-qanoot as was taught by the prophet is not recited in witr. That is why his lectures on these ignored or over-looked issues are important. However, he should keep away from lectures of political nature to suit india’s goal for Pakistan. That is not why muslims listen to him.

& on those subjects where other scholars have issues with him is too complicated for me to understand as I have not reached such an advanced level to say who is right / wrong. But generally, yes, I do agree that his lectures are a treasure for new muslims or born muslims new to Islamic education. Just like all scholars are humans, each one of them would also have alot of errors to their credit too, not him alone. Niyyat is what counts the most.

Dr. Israr has his own place & an ocean of knowledge himself. It was from his lecture that I learned for the first time that the “ghaddars” from the arabs are not the middle eastern arabs (GCC) as is the general perception today. The ghaddars were the non-middle eastern arabs because of whom the muslim world suffers today. On the other hand, middle eastern arabs started a revolution after that ghadaari of non-middle eastern arabs & tried to unite the muslim world again. Just like scholars & other humans, the world leaders are also humans prone to errors. But I think so far, middle eastern leaders are much better & correct in their decisions & direction (for the most part) as compared with rest of the muslims world. It is because they keep islam as their main guiding source even in common lives so have better intellects as opposed to Pakistani leaders.

Same with shia/sunni hate. I believe those who propagate this upon direction from the enemy are misguided & misled & they need to stop. Listen to credible scholars who do not promote anything unislamic from all sectors. The key is to ensure they do not promote anything against Quran & against the prophet’s teachings.

[quote=““Santiago TheShepherd””]

I think putting scholars like him on a Pedestal is the biggest mistake, that we make and we are being very unfair to them and ourselves. His podcast with Mooroo was outstanding regardless of his political views. Just like the views of Maulana Wahiddudin khan, Israr Ahmed, Maulana Ishaq, Tariq Jameel etc, he is also allowed to make error in his judgments, his is not Mahdi AS, he is not infallible.

The revolution, that MA Mirza has started will have long-term implications on the role of Pakistani or Urdu speaking Muslims in this world. The kind of Shia -Sunni hate you get to see in Turks, Persians, and Arabs, you will not see in Pakistanis or Bengalis it’s because of scholars like him who re-kindled the idea that we may not be at least, so different at all. The renaissance of Islam is not possible without solving this sunni-shia communal hate and I see a big role of Pakistanis in this, in times to come.

P.S. I don’t go with his political views as he is not a political scientist, a degree he should pursue. His constant Musharraf bashing, and his uncanny support for a secular spectrum in Pakistan is something I may never agree with, but hey let’s give him the benefit of doubt, he is nothing but just one man, too much on his plate and too much to be answerable for.
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Dont know which nick you’re referring to. I have not mentioned any so it is a wonder who wants to spy on me on this forum. But after I realised that some people that have got hold of my physical location through my online writings & sending various kinds of men to attack, verbally, physically, sexually harass / assault me, instruct them to utter specific words or phrases that I have used in my online posts from the time I started writing online as an ANONYMOUS poster, giving extremely dirty / perverted spin to the words / phrases I used / use with nothing of that sort in mind, I realised that these spies of the enemies had sinister intention to spread certain perceptions about me which suits THEIR interest & connect that with my posts as old as 18 years old. If I knew how they intended to misuse my innocent decades old posts not just against me, my immediate family but against Pakistan & the muslims world & against all those muslims who are sincere to Islam & against all those Pakistanis who are loyal to Pakistan, I would have been alot more careful in my choice of words & topics of discussion not to leave anything for them to MISINTERPRET & misuse. They have caused so much destruction while I was unaware how they were not only misusing online posts from an anonymous muslim Pakistani female on one hand but also framing me, setting me up for worse in all the areas of my life on the other hand. It truly is sickening. I did not mean anything in the ways that they misused them for. Sure wrote facts which the general Pakistani population LIVING IN PAKISTAN may not have had experienced.

The most disturbing was the fact that while you express your views in the virtual world on politics or other subjects of the world using these anonymous handles under the impression that you are anonymously expressing them without inviting any perverts. The enemy still sends them with a certain agenda, by telling them the MISINTERPRETATION your posts in very dirty way which you actually DO NOT mean & can never mean, you are NOT an anonymous writer that you think you are when writing online.

After it was clear to me that no matter what I write, if it is slightly non-serious, those followers sent after me would keep coming to scare / attack me or spoil every matter of my life (as important as meeting someone with intention of marriage or as minor as ordering food) by twisting / misinterpreting my words written online. So, the only solution I have is to not give them any material to twist, misuse, misinterpret to make it appear the opposite of what I originally mean & become very selective about the subjects on which I express my opinion.

Just due to my passion for music (in the past), they told their paaltu kuttaas in Pakistan that I was some professional dancer, a prostitute & a long list of unbelievably dirty professions that was equivalent of giving me electric shocks. The “maligning campaigns” these global political narcs ran against me for my political views by involving various sectors of the society. No matter whom I would meet in Pakistan for any business, they “whisper” all that filth & dirt about me & exploited those people I met to exploit & move me to wrong direction to set me up to create evidence for my employers, business or marriage prospects, my parents that I was really a bad character with hidden ulterior motives. No matter what area of my life, they used every opportunity to mess up every single area through those maligning campaigns / nonfactual perceptions / lies about me only & only due to my political views. & I am 200% sure that it is that anti-Pakistan indian mafia together with their friends in every country including Pakistan. So, every single person I meet in & out of Pakistan take & treat me as per the “whispers” that were blown in their ears by those narcs, not based on the real person that I am. Such was the power of their maligning campaign. The satanic “waswasaas” used for such exploitation of the minds & which anti-Pakistan indians & friends are best at. They used those waswasaas to exploit my dear loved ones against me. Like my loving parents. They tried to break our home through the haasids in my life. This started in 2004. I am sure I am not the only Pakistani target of theirs but I must be the only one least affected & now writing about it.

So I left my matters in the hands of Allah & He will answer to all those hidden snakes, give me justice. As far as I am concerned, I am not willing to provide them any material in the form of my words to build empires of white LIES with regards to who I am in real life.

I came across the following video of people who are praying according to the way they have interpreted Quran and Sunnah, because it “makes sense” to them:

But the only benefit in this world, and the hereafter, these people would get out of their “prayer” is of doing Yoga.

^^ I can see your attempt of making a joke out of muslim prayer by attaching your litter to this topic. Only a kaafir could do that or their anti-muslim friends. Good you made it clear what side you're on.

^ Told you so! :D

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People are using ChatGPT to create works of art, write poems, write novels, write essays and so much more. Some of those works of art are genuinely inspiring such as the following poem it wrote about winters:

So, someone else thought that ChatGPT should be tried to attempt the challenge that Quran [2:23] makes:

Here is the attempt: