Re: Questions from returning officers are a joke to election processs l
`Who’s Sadiq and Ameen?
پاکستان میں وہی صادق اورامین ہیں جن کے نام صادق اورامین ہیں
Re: Questions from returning officers are a joke to election processs l
The countries with more than 90% literacy rate do not have any educational qualification requirements for members of parliament. The mentality of these 'learned' judges (Returning Officers) reflect our society and they are supposed to be highly educated (in Pakistani context).
If there are people like Raja Riaz are bad examples of uneducated politicians, we've had Oxford educated mega corrupt Prime Minister too. There is no correlation between education and political competency or between education and corruption. There is no need to take away the right of a vast majority of our population to work as representatives of people.
It should be up to the people to elect who they think represent them the best. If you believe that illiterate people are necessarily criminal and corrupt too, that's a bit unfair to a huge population of Pakistan.
Cant you see that when all have eyes, they would not make law that those who lead should have eyes, as that happen by default. Requirement to have eyes happen when most are blinds. Blinds cannot rely on blind to lead, so they can make law that one who lead them should at least have one eye,
Same with literacy. Where 90 percent are literate, by default they chose those who are literate and there is no need to have educational qualification for leaders. But in a country where majority are angootha chaap illiterate they cannot allow their leaders to be also angootha-chaap illiterate monkeys who instead of giving them illuminated future could only give them dark future, as that is what they would be capable of. So, to have laws that leaders getting to parliament should be educated is required in country where most are angootha-chaap illiterates. One do not need PhD to understand that.
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Jab ankh ka andha lead karnay kay liyea ankh kay Andhay ko chunay ga tao kaha jayea ga kay woh aqal ka bhie andha hay.
Issi tarah agar jahil lead karnay kay liyea jahil ko chunay ga tou kaha jayea ga kay woh sirf jahil nahie hay balkay aqal say bhie giya hua hay.
Re: Questions from returning officers are a joke to election processs l
The countries with more than 90% literacy rate do not have any educational qualification requirements for members of parliament. The mentality of these 'learned' judges (Returning Officers) reflect our society and they are supposed to be highly educated (in Pakistani context).
If there are people like Raja Riaz are bad examples of uneducated politicians, we've had Oxford educated mega corrupt Prime Minister too. There is no correlation between education and political competency or between education and corruption. There is no need to take away the right of a vast majority of our population to work as representatives of people.
It should be up to the people to elect who they think represent them the best.** If you believe that illiterate people are necessarily criminal and corrupt too, that's a bit unfair to a huge population of Pakistan.**
I didn't say that nor do I want to entrust illiterate people with the important responsibility of interpreting/making laws of the country
And you can usu. find someone who is atleast a graduate among most village societies (even many educated people living in the cities have roots in the villages, is that not true?) of today ... so that is hardly a good excuse
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Pakistan's official language is english, so do you want illiterate people deciding your fate without even having the means to know what is in the bill? This is coming from a country that has had rubber stamp parliaments...
In the west, you at least have to finish high school (or up to 10th grade but people get GED) by law where there is nothing of that sort in Pakistan.
Re: Questions from returning officers are a joke to election processs l
Pakistan's official language is english, so do you want illiterate people deciding your fate without even having the means to know what is in the bill? This is coming from a country that has had rubber stamp parliaments...
In the west, you at least have to finish high school (or up to 10th grade but people get GED) by law where there is nothing of that sort in Pakistan.
everything apart but this practice does tell u a lot about the competence of 'would be' leaders of this country..
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62 and 63 seem rather tame compared to some of the other gems to be found in the constitution.
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62 and 63 seem rather tame compared to some of the other gems to be found in the constitution.
^^^ When angootha chaap would make laws then what you expect? What you think? Do monkeys in parliament read and understand what laws they are enacting for the nation and for themselves?
Let see what must be happening when Jahils are in parliament (not necessarily Pakistan but anywhere in the world).
I believe with illiterate monkeys in parliament, what must be happening is that, bureaucracy would send them papers with laws written on that paper and some bananas.
These parliamentarians would shake their heads, raise their fist in air, would show their teeth to each other and would make sound 'Ayeen Bayeen Shayeem' ... then take bananas near their eyes as close as possible, would inspect bananas closely and then calm down .. start giving smile to each other and then without understanding or reading the papers, what they are incapable of doing anyhow (reading and understanding) as they are as Jahils as the people they represent, these parliamentarian monkeys would put black ink on their thumb and put the impression on the paper ... lo jee qanoon ban giya ... then they would start giving mubarak-baad to each other for Banana they are going to take home to share with their wife and children ... that is all .... ab qanoon jaisa bhie ho monkeys would not care as they do not even know on what they have put down their thumb print and what would be the consequence later for nation and for themselves.
Hmmm ... waisay may nay kuch zaidah tou nahi kah diya ... kay they get banana as most of the time they get peanuts, their voters get danda, while bureaucracy and their masters (party leaders) make their day with loot and plunder. :)
Iss ko kahtay hain Jahiloon kee parliament ... be that parliament full of Jahils in Pakistan or anywhere in the world :)
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HRCP sees systematic sabotage of democratic process | Pakistan | DAWN.COM
LAHORE: A leading Pakistani human rights watchdog has expressed serious concerns over what it terms the systematic attempts to exclude candidates from elections and to sabotage people’s ability to elect candidates of their choice or to hold them to account.
“It is manifestly clear now that the latest process of scrutiny of candidates is a witch-hunt aimed at harassing and humiliating candidates,” the Executive council of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) said in a statement on Saturday. “It undermines the essence of what democracy entails and shows a complete lack of faith in the people’s right and ability to choose their representatives.”
Several candidates for the coming general elections, scheduled for May 11, have complained of being bombarded with inappropriate and provoking questions during scrutiny of candidacy paper, with some queries relating to religious text and others to personal issues.
For the second time this week, the HRCP slammed the conduct of the returning officers in the scrutiny process of nomination papers of electoral candidates.
“The completely arbitrary barring of candidates by returning officers at this scale cannot be without instructions and encouragement to take this tack. HRCP sees a clear and systematic sabotage of the democratic process to make the will of the people completely irrelevant,” read the statement.
The statement also likened the recent events in the electoral process to the ‘agenda’ of former military ruler Ziaul Haq.
“This deliberate and planned abuse of the process appears to be a bid to complete Ziaul Haq’s agenda to accommodate extremism into mainstream politics and to thrust theocratic rule down people’s throats,” said the statement.
On Friday, Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain criticised the manner in which returning officers were undertaking scrutiny of electoral candidates, calling it an attempt to disqualify them, and thus creating doubts about the timely holding of the elections.
In the statement, the HRCP called on other political leaders as well as the civil society to also freely express their opinions regarding the scrutiny process.
“HRCP calls upon the political parties and the civil society to vigilantly guard against these latest attempts to liquidate democracy in Pakistan and resolutely reject any and all bids to delay elections under any pretext or to introduce unrepresentative rule,” it said.
“[The] HRCP also calls upon all political leadership to express their opinion openly on this devious plan of enforcing selective rule of a few so-called angels on Pakistan’s fate. The sole voice denouncing such tendency has come from the head of only one political party. Others too need to shed their fear and speak up at this critical moment.”
It also called on the Election Commission to intervene and stop “the asymmetric warfare on the electoral process.”
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And why we only mark Zia guilty for introducing these laws , I say each and every member , who was once part of the National Assembly of 1985 , should share the blame
Re: Questions from returning officers are a joke to election processs l
Aek candidate se kaha gaya ke ABC sunao. Us ney poocha choti ke barri? 
A candidate was asked to name 15 fruits. He replied: “Apple, orange, grape and 12 bananas…15 fruits” 
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And why we only mark Zia guilty for introducing these laws , I say each and every member , who was once part of the National Assembly of 1985 , should share the blame
Every politician who has been in any National Assembly since 1985 should share the blame. Every National Assembly since 1985 had the opportunity to amend the constitution to remove this requirement, and every National Assembly refused to do so.
Kudos to the CJ for encouraging ROs to apply the laws that gutless politicians refuse to do anything about.