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How can rookie pilots hijack with plastic knives and then fly the massive airliners into buildings with pin pint accuracy?
Re: Questions about 9/11 that you still dont have answers to
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How can rookie pilots hijack with plastic knives and then fly the massive airliners into buildings with pin pint accuracy?
Second plane almost miss the building, third plane crashed in PA and 4th plane (Pentagon one) was a ghost plane anyways.
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Ok pin point would be the wrong word, but still crash them anyhow? I don't think a normal person who has never piloted a huge plane can take control over a plane with little plastic knives and maneuver it and then smash it. Flying a huge aircraft I'd expect a rookie to crash it in ten seconds.
I agree with your other points though i.e. about Pentagon
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All of those who think that our questions are weird fabrication of illogical conspiracy laden brain, please read the following**
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN BIG PLANES HIT TALL BUILDINGS.**
At 9:49 a.m on July 28, 1945, a ten-ton, B-25 bomber smashed into the north side of the Empire State Building. The majority of the plane hit the 79th floor, creating a hole in the building eighteen feet wide and twenty feet high. The plane's high-octane fuel exploded, hurtling flames down the side of the building and inside through hallways and stairwells all the way down to the 75th floor.
One of the engines and part of the landing gear hurtled across the 79th floor, through wall partitions and two fire walls, and out the south wall's windows to fall onto a twelve-story building across 33rd Street. The other engine flew into an elevator shaft and landed on an elevator car.
The plane crash killed 14 people (11 office workers and the three crewmen) plus injured 26 others. Though the integrity of the Empire State Building was not affected, the cost of the damage done by the crash was $1 million.
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I always said old things are built more solid. 
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HAHAHA :rotfl:
Try Harder Bro.
These two situations aren’t entirely comparable.
The maximum weight of a B-25 ranged from 27,100 lb to a limit of 41,800 lb, for instance (see www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/URG/b25mitchell.html). A 767-200 ranges from 179,080 lbs (empty) to 395,000 lb (maximum takeoff load) (www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/jetliner/b767), and FEMA said the 9/11 planes had “an estimated gross weight of 274000 pounds” ( http://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_ch1.pdf ).
The maximum speed of a B-25 ranged from 275 mph to 315 mph, depending on which version it was, and as the B-25 pilot was trying to avoid the building it’s unlikely he’d have reached that (cruising speed was 230 mph). On 9/11, “American Airlines Flight 11 crashes at a speed of roughly 470 mph” and “United Airlines Flight 175 crashes at a speed of about 590 mph” (National Geographic TV Shows, Specials & Documentaries), a considerable difference when you factor in the extra mass as well.
The B-25 had a “normal total fuel load of 974 US gallons” (**(http://www.b25.net)); a proportion of this would have been used already in the plane’s flight. By comparison, “it has been estimated that both UA Flight 175 and AA Flight 11 were carrying about 10,000 gallons of fuel when they impacted” (www.serendipity.li/wot/wtc_demolition_init.htm).
Less structural damage meant no real issues in terms of supporting the load of the building above (which was constructed entirely differently from the WTC anyway). The considerably reduced fuel load meant fire was less of an issue, and the blaze that did arise was brought under control without much difficulty:**
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On side note, you dont believe that any govt would use a third party media source to spread a propaganda, no matter how reputable that source is (more reputable, more incentive govt has to use that source)? We can start a thread on this but I am sure I can find many many examples in history when that was done
Any Government, Yes.
American Government, highly doubtful.
When Nixon secretly expanded the Vietnam War in 1970 by bombing Cambodia, he was nailed by the American Media and was forced to resign in 1974.
When LBJ, lied to the American public that North Vietnamese Warships had attacked American Naval Warships in 1964, he also was called out on that lie and didn't run for a second term.
When Bush lied claiming that Iraq had WMD, he also was called out on it and now is ranked among the worst presidents in American history.
As for Popular Mechanics, its backed by the foremost engineers, scientists on the planet. If you can find holes in them debunking 9/11 conspiracy nonsense. Go Ahead. But I believe them over a bunch of fringe morons living in their basements inventing conspiracy theories because they are unemployed. :D
Not a single credible journalist has come out in support for 9/11 conspiracy nonsense. Robert Fisk, Michael Moore, Seymour Hersh, Bob Woodward all big critics of the American Foreign Policy but not one has endorsed the 9/11 Conspiracy Nonsense.
There are legitimate ways to criticize America but manufacturing 9/11 conspiracy theories is not it.
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I always wonder what the reason for these conspiracy theories by Muslims are. Is it because as Muslims we don't wanna accept that there are certain people who commit atrocious acts in the name of Islam? Do you not see what is happening in Pakistan now with the systemic slaughter of minority sects? And then we just blame India/Israel/US for so many of our problems. Just makes me shake my head. Anyway I can't argue about this type of stuff, makes me go crazy, so believe what you guys want. No one is ever gonna change anyone's mind on matters like this.
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^its not only the 'muslims' who came up with conspiracy theaories about 9/11. A lot of those originated in the US.
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Any Government, Yes.
American Government, highly doubtful.
When Nixon secretly expanded the Vietnam War in 1970 by bombing Cambodia, he was nailed by the American Media and was forced to resign in 1974.
When LBJ, lied to the American public that North Vietnamese Warships had attacked American Naval Warships in 1964, he also was called out on that lie and didn't run for a second term.
When Bush lied claiming that Iraq had WMD, he also was called out on it and now is ranked among the worst presidents in American history.
As for Popular Mechanics, its backed by the foremost engineers, scientists on the planet. If you can find holes in them debunking 9/11 conspiracy nonsense. Go Ahead. But I believe them over a bunch of fringe morons living in their basements inventing conspiracy theories because they are unemployed. :D
Not a single credible journalist has come out in support for 9/11 conspiracy nonsense. Robert Fisk, Michael Moore, Seymour Hersh, Bob Woodward all big critics of the American Foreign Policy but not one has endorsed the 9/11 Conspiracy Nonsense.
There are legitimate ways to criticize America but manufacturing 9/11 conspiracy theories is not it.
When US was crying about WMD's in Iraq and anyone saying the opposite was labelled as a conspiracy theorist, how did that turn out?
You have rubble that was vaporised, and then you had passports that seemingly survived and a few ''hijackers'' were actually alive. You have no plane at Pentagon. You have tons of videos where firefighters on the scene are reporting explosions, are they all hearing things?
These three lines above are not theories. These are facts. You talk about US citizens? Nearly all of these theories originate from US itself. Alot of families who lost people heavily doubt the original story.
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Yes, but any theory to deflect blame from OBL and gang was quickly accepted by many in the Muslim world.
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Yes, but any theory to deflect blame from OBL and gang was quickly accepted by many in the Muslim world.
I agree Slims bro, Pakistanis deflect everything from ourselves. But most of these theories are not started by Muslims at all, on the contrary a lot of them are started by Americans themselves.
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I am going to quote the reason of WTC7 collapse from the Popular Mechanics article
**According to NIST, there was one primary reason for the building’s failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. “What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors,” Sunder notes, “it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down.”
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Read more: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - World Trade Center - Popular Mechanics
This reasoning is so mind blowing that it makes me mad. This is an insult to all the civil engineers around the world. What this literally is telling us that the whole structure was relying on one column. We design structures so the load is well spread out. That is why you have to drill holes in multiple columns and insert dynamite, when you need to bring a building down. Otherwise it would so convenient (and dangerous) to bring a whole building down, by just destroying one single column.
What our dear brother mercenery2k failed to see in the article is that Popular Mechanics’s engineers did not do the study, they are just reporting NIST that is a federal agency.
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Maybe because they are not naive enough to believe fairy tales. :halo:
Like Ali Baba and his 40 thieves ?
Bringing down Babylon.
And probably because all Muslims are implicated through association unfairly. Maybe they don’t like that. What do you think ?
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Hello TS I dont want to get you in trouble with mods but would you please change picture of Half naked Amir Khan to something more appropriate. I dont know what kind message you trying send, boxing is haram and Amir Khan is known supporter of British soldiers in Iraq that murder muslims. Thank you.
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As to 9/11 i've read that the jews didn't show up to work that day in the world trade centers. This isn't 100% proof but is leans towards the argument that this was top secret mossad operation
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Boxing is Haram?
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questions i want answered.
- How did bush know exactly when the first plane had hit the tower when it wasnt even broadcasted live??
- Why was the world trade centre noticeably quieter that day prior to the attack??
World renowned civil engineers and scientists were all in agreement that the towers resembled that of a controlled demolition. Also, the planes that were used were not strong enough to bring the towers down the way they did. 9/11 has done one thing. Given the US government a trump card to scaremonger the public into waging an illegal war. Terrorists are not what the US government fights. Terrorists are what the US government uses.
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I wanted to change Amir Khan’s picture ever since he lost to that Garcia kid 
and because he loves his rolex watches and his several expensive sports cars way too much. :halo:
Maybe now that you have threatened to report me to the mods, I will beg them for a change because I don’t think I am allowed to change the pic myself.
Even getting Amir’s picture up in the first place was a special favour by a friendly mod. 
Beside, I thought men could show their chest without it being considered offensive.
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i am surprised this isn’t 100% proof. 