I fully agree with your statement regarding Tipu Sultan & Haider Ali. I don't believe for a second that Muslims of then India were some sort of "ghulam" types. The problem was our leadership which was corrupt and decrepit (sound familiar?). We know the Mughal story, the Punjabis were oppressed to the core, with a few exceptions, the Sindhis in the twilight and the Baluch and Pakhtun tribals in disarray...Such was the state of Muslims of that period. *Tipu Sultan was indeed a beacon. *
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I hail from Karnataka, the state where Tipu ruled and it is true he was a tiger. Karnataka is one of the least muslim populated states in India, because, except Tipu and Hyder ali, (and the bijapur sultan's) Many parts of the state were NEVER ruled by a muslim. Even the Mughals were stopped at the banks of Tungabhadra river by the powerful Vijayanagar Empire.
Coming back to Tipu, he was very popular among Hindus. Once when I was reading old transcripts of the Sringeri Temple (the seat of Dakshinanmaya Shankaracharya), you find that Tipu had patronised these temples and Mutts and had won over the Heart of the then Shankaracharya.
(Irony is a Hindu maratha king waged war and plundered the Holy town of Sringeri, and it was Tipu who fought back and protected the temple. Unfortunately not many people know about this truth, and these details I got to know from the Temple records, which are perfectly maintained).
you will be suprised to know that the sikhs, punjabi muslims and pakhtuns were the main mercenery force that helped british retake take in uprising of 1857.
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*Originally posted by kabir: *
you will be suprised to know that the sikhs, punjabi muslims and pakhtuns were the main mercenery force that helped british retake take in uprising of 1857.
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Nobody will be surprised, you haven't disclosed here any secret. Sikhs of panjab remained loyal to the British throughout and please exclude Pakhtuns from the club as they haven't ever collaborated with the British.
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*Originally posted by Zakk: *
The first one would probably be Sher Shah Suri, his falling out with the Mughals can be traced to the story of Mughal nobles laughing at him because he had his elbows on the table while eating.
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errr...i wonder whether the mughals knews at all what a table is...
Nobody will be surprised, you haven't disclosed here any secret. Sikhs of panjab remained loyal to the British throughout and please exclude Pakhtuns from the club as they haven't ever collaborated with the British.
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WELL MY dear get your facts checked the pakhtuns were the main fighting force of the british in 1857.
the pakhtuns had thier own reasons for supporting the british because it was a joint paktun and british force that had defeated the sikh kingdom and the pakhtuns helped the british fight the mughals in gratitute
WELL MY dear get your facts checked the pakhtuns were the main fighting force of the british in 1857.
the pakhtuns had thier own reasons for supporting the british because it was a joint paktun and british force that had defeated the sikh kingdom and the pakhtuns helped the british fight the mughals in gratitute
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I stand corrected an I thank you for that!
Here is an excerpt from a book:
They(british) defeated the Sikhs and Pukhtuns with the help of the hindustani sepoys, and when these mutinied, turned those very tribes against them.
Punjabi muslims and sikhs, the tribesmen of Kohat and the yousufzai's country were united, against the hindustanis, muslim and non-muslims, by the common hatred they bore against them.