Rubbish you say, so there is no difference in cultural and traditional norms of today and that of 1500 years ago in middle east/ among arabs?
Whether he married her when she was 9, 12 or 17, it was Allahs will and that is all a Muslim needs to know.
Marrying a 12 year old is much much better than getting her pregnant without marriage and leaving the children for welfare as it so often happens today in many parts of the world yet no body makes an issue out of that… society that feeds millions of *******s (illegal kids) each year and millions of *******s give birth each year shouldn’t be saying anything about what happened 1500 years ago about various important people having young wives or marrying multiple times.:halo:
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IN old times the average span of life was less in 40's i think due to poor medical facilities... means tab jaldi old hote the due to more work more exetion etc.. so child marriage was common thing then even in indian subcontinet
Btw you did not answer PAs question. How many other examples are there of this from 1400 years ago? I’m not on PAs side however if you are discussing with him then you should answer his question.
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no hate post please. I would like a friendly discussion.
I had written down this as an article on my understanding and research on this topic, i might be harsh on few accounts but this what, i could do the best. Since your intention is again not clean this is my reply. I repeat again, i am being harsh and direct to the point, i am extremely sorry if I have hurt anyones feelings.
Well this is a fantastic topic, i always wanna ask the disbelievers, that if Propeht wouldnt have married Ayesha at such a tender age would these kafirs accept Islam.
For heavens sake no way, they cant target the Quran, so whats next is the Seerah(Biography) of Prophet, well they have deception of disease in there heart.
The kafirs pick this situation as if, if this particular incident is deleted from the Life of Propeht they would accept Islam. BS
Well forget that , firstly let us understand, its a cultural issue more then a religious issue, wehre in the Quran is it given the age to get married yes the time is mentioned, age no way. This kafirs again discuss such events with such elan, and hypocrisy is painted on there face and in black color.
In country like India, Afghanistan, we still continue wiht child marriage is it religious or cultural and if it is something cultural then no ones got right to attack a culture. Well most of the anthropologists dont have problem with this issue coz its cultural and it was common in the Arabs to get married earlier.
Biologically speaking since Arabia is a hot place, the girls get there menses at a very early age and hence even this is not an issue. *Secondly the Mushriks of Makkah who hated Prophet the most, the most did not have any problems with such issues, its the problem of this age who are jumping around with this issue.
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For the Mushriks of Makkah, its was nothing surprising otherwise they would be the first ones to object, well Allaah guides whom he wills, for the Muslims Allaah ordered the marriage of Ayesha and Prophet period and today we know the result of this marriage. Allaah is the best of planners.
Let them plot, Allaah will also plot and Allaah is the best of planners.
*The more kufar are attacking Muslims, its directly proportional for the non-muslims to convert to Islam.
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Well let them enjoy, a short stay in this World and abuse whomsoever, Allaah will perish them for sure, remember what happened to Abu Lahab and a complete surah in the Quran just becuase this kafir abuse Noble Prophet now, I see different names, faces but heart remains the same, agenda remains one, objective remains one to disdain the Prophet but they forget that even there destination is also ONE unless these people do not change and guided by Allaah.
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Why do I get the feeling chintu bhopali is an old tame troll?
Anyway, no one knows what her real age was when she got married to the prophet, but we do know that she had at least begun her menses. Biologically, that means a female is ready to reproduce. Simple. It was never considered a child marriage, because at that time, when you hit your period, you were no longer considered a child. And that's not just Arab culture. That was just how things were around the world in that time period.
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I'm not a scholar or anything but I've asked my father this question and he explained that the Prophet (sws) did this so someone could narrate his life for Muslims to follow. His wife would be the one person who would know the most about him, and so this resulted in Hazrat Aisha (r) having recorded the greatest number of Hadith.
Also, there is absolutely no way she was 6 years old. It was more around 16+ if you work out the chronology. My dad explained this to me, too. I don't exactly remember what the timeline was, but I'll ask him and get back to you.
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NOT.
marrying off 9 year olds to 50+ year olds wasn't the norm.. and considering the Holy prophet was setting an example for his entire Ummah to come, such an act clearly sets a precedent. You can't pick and choose saying. He married widows.. so copy that.. but he naoozobillah married and consummat marriage with a 9yr old and that's an exception only for him.
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Also, there is absolutely no way she was 6 years old. It was more around 16+ if you work out the chronology. My dad explained this to me, too. I don't exactly remember what the timeline was, but I'll ask him and get back to you.
So what you are saying that Prophet Mohammed did not trust his followers but chose to trust his wife instead. Then the argument given by my friend that HE wanted to 'write" before dying and hence demanded a kalam-dawaat holds true.
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When it was said that Abu Bakr (R) converted to Islam, it also mentioned his two daughters (Hazrat Aisha and Asima), meaning she had been born at the time (610).
Hazrat Khadija (R) died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. (622) He then was said to have spent two years alone in sorrow. Then, he was said to have married Hazrat Aisha (R) and three years later he 'consummated' the marriage. (So we could say that he married her in about 624)
So, assuming that Hazrat Aisha (R) was a new-born baby at the time when Abu-Bakr (R) had converted, the youngest she could have been would be 14 years old.
I'm almost positive I have the dates correct. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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it did not say that she was a newborn in 610.
and I am skeptical of any of the 'details' that try to prove that she was a kid, hich are insulting stories solely created to malign the man and thus his message.
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Nescio - That would mean it was recorded in Hadith. If you don't believe in the authenticity of those, I guess nothing can be proven to you for sure, then. And I believe I only said that just once, anyways.
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you can only prove to them what they can apprehend... taste, physically feel, smell, hearing, seeing... atleast, they believe in one GOD without 5 of the above... we should give them a credit for that where it is due :)
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not without.. but because of .. using your aql to understand your religion through knowledge rather than rhetoric is highly recommended in the Qur'an.. i wish more people took that route.
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i don’t see the relevance, but yes, the translation pretty much says the same.. the how’s and why’s are for us to understand.. I doubt we’ve even begun to understand the world we live in.. just because we don’t have a rational explanation for the ‘miracle’ right now doesn’t mean there isn’t one.. Allah has made the Universe subject to some rules.. I’m sure His miracles follow them too.
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marrying off 9 year olds to 50+ year olds wasn't the norm.. and considering the Holy prophet was setting an example for his entire Ummah to come, such an act clearly sets a precedent. You can't pick and choose saying. He married widows.. so copy that.. but he naoozobillah married and consummat marriage with a 9yr old and that's an exception only for him.
PA : Marrying girls who were past their menses, even if they had just recently had their first period WAS common everywhere. Its been going on in Europe well after the Prophet's death. And don't mix up my words. I never said the norm was to marry 9 year olds. The norm was to marry girls who reached their menstrual age. What the common menstrual age was in Arabia in that time period is hard to say. But if one is to extrapolate what we know about the recent decrease in menstrual age going down to 10ish, I would assume that it must have been higher in the past.
The average age for starting the first period is somewhere between 10-14, roughly speaking. Even 10 is hitting on the young side, I think.
Phatima's explanation makes some sense, but the fact is that the hadith's conflict as to reporting an actual age. But you can assume that he did marry her after her period began.
There was no such thing as teenage life in the past. That's been a relatively new social invention. Before, you hit your period, you were considered a woman, and your social responsibilities dramatically changed. :)