Professor vs. student: Discussion on God

[Ghost14]

Re: Professor vs. student: Discussion on God

@psyah

Peace Ghost14

Many empirical evidences and multiple tests exist for religious beliefs … Your claim that “nothing” has been proven in religion is false.

For example Surah Rum … States that the Romans that were defeated by the pagan Persians will within 3 to 9 years defeat the pagans back. This is exactly what happened.

We can say that the Qur’an … All of it was uttered by the holy prophet Muhammad (SAW), through the sciences of ilm-ul-riijaal we can indeed show that the Qur’an that we have is the same one that came from the Prophet (SAW).

The Qur’an states that it is preserved and behold we see each generation of Muslims do not come unless there are multitudes in them who memorise the whole of it and then transmit it to their next generation.

The challenge of the Qur’an, which is also its falsification test is for any verse to be brought like it … If it were for that matter not from God … people have since time not been able to emulate the Qur’an …

Like Med said, that prediction was hardly specific. More so, others have made predictions that have also been “true”, are those people to be considered prophets now?

Furthermore, this idea that the Quran is somehow unique is never explained. What does this mean exactly? How is it unique?

And memorization is does not make a piece of literature unique. The tribes that live isolated in southern India still pass on their “scripture” verbally, and have been doing so since humans first migrated to India. Their DNA can actually be traced to the earliest humans out of Africa. Does that make you believe in their religion?

How about a simple test: Noah’s Ark. It is absolutely ridiculous given the dimensions of the ark, to think that two of every animal in the world could fit in there. Even if that was true, how did the people in the middle east “save” the animals that lived on other continents? And where is Noah’s Ark?

@Zafra

Of course its okay to doubt the existence of God. Many people do on a regular basis. And my entire discussion has been to make the point what if we just lack the tools and technology to verify the existence of a deity? After all most scientists and philosophers like Plato, Aristotle etc were all religious men who believed in Zeus, Aries and countless other deities.

Actually, others here are arguing that it is not okay to doubt. And if doubt is reasonable, then someone concluding that faith is not enough, and deciding to leave a religion is also reasonable. Except if you live in a religious country in which case you are an apostate. Furthermore, if God does exist, the only measurable aspect of the deity would be nature itself, which is called science. There is no way to verify whether Shaitan is actually imprisoned during Ramadan.

I agree that a lot of thinkers were deists. My assertion, and apparently yours as well, is that doubt, and therefore rejection of a religion, not God, is reasonable as well.