Professor vs. student: Discussion on God

Med911 · December 21, 2012, 12:18am

Re: Professor vs. student: Discussion on God

Peace Ghost14

Many empirical evidences and multiple tests exist for religious beliefs … Your claim that “nothing” has been proven in religion is false.

For example Surah Rum … States that the Romans that were defeated by the pagan Persians will within 3 to 9 years defeat the pagans back. This is exactly what happened.

We can say that the Qur’an … All of it was uttered by the holy prophet Muhammad (SAW), through the sciences of ilm-ul-riijaal we can indeed show that the Qur’an that we have is the same one that came from the Prophet (SAW).

The Qur’an states that it is preserved and behold we see each generation of Muslims do not come unless there are multitudes in them who memorise the whole of it and then transmit it to their next generation.

The challenge of the Qur’an, which is also its falsification test is for any verse to be brought like it … If it were for that matter not from God … people have since time not been able to emulate the Qur’an …

Very nice.

But none of that is considered evidence of being factual.

Surah Rum for example. That the Romans won, does not prove the validity of religion. What was the probability, taking into consideration the history of Romans stretching over 1000 years, that they would return to fight the Pagan Persians? I would say the probability is very high. What is the probability that thy will win? 50/50 at the very least, but considering the history of the Romans probably still slightly in their favor. Predicting something accurately, especially with the odds being so high is not a conclusive sign of the divine, not matter how we would wish it were. If i predict India will win 2 games and Pakistan 3 ODI’s in the upcoming games, that doesn’t make me God.

If accuracy of “predictions” is what we consider as evidence of the divine, then we should also consider Nostradamus, who specifically mentioned “Hister” as a major threat in the 20th century, as being divinely inspired.

Why not be honest with one self. There is no evidence for religion. And you dont need evidence either. Why not just call a spade a spade instead of falsely and stubbornly insisting that its in any way verifiable?