Professor vs. student: Discussion on God

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Re: Professor vs. student: Discussion on God

@Ghost14

The idea of there being no doubt about the Quran is coming *from *the Quran. Do you not see the problem with that? If I write a book which states that everything I write in the book, and everything I say, is the absolute truth, does that make it so?

So basically, people who already believe in Allah, believe the Quran, therefore, God exists? The same can be said of Scientology. If an atheist reads both, and decides that neither is true, does that mean God doesn’t exist?

Peace Ghost

There is nothing logically wrong in the Qur’an saying about itself that it is true … as I said earlier … You as a sceptic may call that statement unfounded, but me as a believer must accept it … with faith … Logic is about the use of the language rather than the meaning behind the language … You need to understand that before you can continue.

so you ask a question … If you wrote a book and claimed it to be the truth … Does it make it so? Well no it does not but it does not make it false either … Unless I test your book against accessible data I will not know … The assertion is there … Fine … But logic will not allow me to accept it or reject it.

Lastly, you tripped up in your logical conclusion … You said if an atheist reads both and decides neither is true … Does that mean God does not exist? … No, the Qur’an claim as per the ayah is not … If you read it you will believe it and if you don’t then God does not exist … By deduction we can say an atheist will not be guided by the Qur’an, rather is most likely going to receive misguidance by it.

since it follows that a believer will be guided by it, but there is a chance that some atheists may be guided by it … We are using logic to work out other matters.