Professor vs. student: Discussion on God

Re: Professor vs. student: Discussion on God

I am a member of the scientific community too but I also believe that you cannot prove or disprove God’s existence in the lab. He’s not a thing or a creature for whom you can devise experiments, He’s God. This intelligent universe is proof enough for me and it’s perfectly fine if it isn’t for someone else, I don’t engage in these debates any more. Every time I read stuff like this, it reminds me of surah Ar-Rahman - “Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny?”

I was just discussing the creation of evil part.

You’re blaming the weapon and not the criminal, the weapon being our brain/intelligence/freedom and the criminals being those who choose to use that weapon for the wrong purposes. God only created the tools and it is up to us as to how we utilize them. Choking someone with bare hands isn’t rocket science but does that mean God is evil for giving us hands or were these limbs meant for a different, not so evil purpose? Evil is not a different being that was created and put on this earth separately, it comes from within us. It is only our capacity to think and act independently that makes humans do evil things. Even the angels expressed this fear and Allah taala did not deny this but He simply said “I know what you do not know”. So what is it that He knew? Despite the negative virtues of humans, somehow our status is greater than that of angels’. How come? What is it about us that raises our status above beings who never even sin?

Just like drug manufacturers make drugs for therapeutic purposes despite their side effects, God created us despite our shortcomings because we’re capable of demonstrating immense love, greatness, knowledge, intelligence, empathy etc. Even bacteria, fungi and plants etc have certain disadvantages, some can even kill you, but they have plenty of advantages as well and they were made to serve some extremely important functions. The only difference between a drug and a poison is the dosage. Similarly, the only difference between good and bad humans (and jinns) is in the choices they make. While we have the ability and freedom to make the wrong choices, has God not taught us how to make the right choices? Has He not sent scriptures and countless prophets to us to warn us against and deter us from evil? Why would He do that if He in fact created us to be evil and if He approved of evil. That was my argument.

Interesting thread anyway, enjoy the discussions. I’m out.