Re: Professor vs. student: Discussion on God
I know exactly what you are saying.. if only you could read my post in totality.
Your premise “Muslim believe in a certain religion to be true”… When you are using the word muslim you have to take in to account all the different interpretations of muslim religion. Otherwise you have to reword your premise as “muslims” following interpretations of a certain clergyman..
Your conclusion can only be applicable to your interpretation of muslim. You can not make a sweeping statement for everyone like:
Your concluding statement making a decision on my behalf also who does not consider this to be true. My interpretation of “muslim” religion does not stop me from asking such and such question…
I am a muslim and do not believe that the same God who has given us intelligence does not want us to use it. This is my faith and I do not want to defend my faith in front of you.
It’s just like saying:
Pakistanis believe they are patriotic (Premise)
They will all vote for PTI (conclusion)
You may believe that all patriotic Pakistanis must vote for PTI.. but as long as there are other Pakistanis also who consider themselves patriotic.. and are not going to vote for PTI.. you can not make such a conclusion.
So meray bhai.. Muslim religion is subject to different interpretation.. It’s my interpretation against your interpretation. It’s not a debate about whose interpretation is correct. The first step is to recognize that we have different interpretations.** I think it is okay to have faith and admit that it is based on emotions and not reason, logic or evidence**. You also have faith but you want to use reason and evidence to justify it. Again it’s your interpretation against my interpretation. So far so good nothing wrong with it.. But the problem starts when you declare that your faith is based on reason, logic, and evidence.. but you are unable to rationally present your argument..
P.S. Presupposition argument was only reemphasized to you when you brought to my notice that you know clergymen who can argue faith with philosophy and logic. I just challenged you that such an attempt must not include any presupposition if it has to be really rational..