Presidential hopeful General Wesley Clark says US plans to attack seven Muslim state

Originally posted by Faisal: *
**Fraudz... so are you agreeing that "Pakistan is the real source of terrorists"? *

I am agreeing with the fact that pakistan's poverty and corruption amke it a pretty good breeding ground for terrorists.

There is a difference between saying "Some British football fans are rowdy and ill-mannered" and "UK supports rowdism and vandalism in football games".

yes but the statements here could be compared to teh following

some british football fans are rowdy and ill mannered
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UK is a source of football hooligans

both those statements are true

when you say UKL supports hooliganism, a comaprative statement would be that Pakistan sponsors terrorism, which was not said.

that was not said, what was said was that certain situations in certain countries make them the real source of terrorists.

yesh it could have been said better, had he changed to to "Pakistan is a good breeding ground of terrorists because of its problems with poverty and corruption" that statement would not be factually incorrect.

I suppose we could ask him to clarify further and say that certain areas or certain groups are utlizing the issues due to poverty and corruption to create extremists and potential terrorists..

delivery could be better, message is accurate.

Pakistan breeding ground for terrorist?

Wat does that make America and Israel then they not exactly poverty stricken yet they commit terror which would make hitler blush!

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*Originally posted by Abdali: *

US can hardly deal with 20 million Iraqis without begging every Tom Dick and Harry. Itching a fight with 150M bad Pakis armed with nukes and missiles will be for sure the end of US terrorism in the region.
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Do you think these nukes will teleport half a globe away? If they fall, they will hurt Pakistan the most, and yes, why does the US need to attack Pakistan, when they already have control of it, thanks to uncle mush?

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*Originally posted by dejavu: *

Do you think these nukes will teleport half a globe away? If they fall, they will hurt Pakistan the most, and yes, why does the US need to attack Pakistan, when they already have control of it, thanks to uncle mush?
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When you explode a nuke or two you become from axis of evil to key ally.... Now where did I said Paki nukes will travel around the world.... Thanks god for Paki nukes or the terrorist would have done Iraq on Pak.

CBS Poll

WAS WAR IN IRAQ WORTH THE COST?

Before speech
Yes 43%
No 51%

After monkey speech
Yes 41%
No 52%

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/21/opinion/polls/main594749.shtml

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*Originally posted by ak47: *
Pakistan breeding ground for terrorist?

Wat does that make America and Israel then they not exactly poverty stricken yet they commit terror which would make hitler blush!
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yawn stick to the topic.

we are discussing what general clark said. discussing israel, USA, burkina faso, burundi, lesotho and Tonga is just a wee bit off topic.

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*Originally posted by Abdali: *

US can hardly deal with 20 million Iraqis without begging every Tom Dick and Harry. Itching a fight with 150M bad Pakis armed with nukes and missiles will be for sure the end of US terrorism in the region.
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You’re confusing occupation and war. While you're right the cost of occupying Pakistan would be to much the cost of going to war likely wouldn't be. That said the current leadership of Pakistan doesn't support a fundamentalist view and is a close ally to the United States. Rooting out those fundamentalists within Pakistan will help stabilize the country and further it's development, something both countries want. What's good for Pakistan is good for the United States and vice versa.

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*Originally posted by underthedome: *

You’re confusing occupation and war. While you're right the cost of occupying Pakistan would be to much the cost of going to war likely wouldn't be. That said the current leadership of Pakistan doesn't support a fundamentalist view and is a close ally to the United States. Rooting out those fundamentalists within Pakistan will help stabilize the country and further it's development, something both countries want. What's good for Pakistan is good for the United States and vice versa.
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You mean 100 odd nukes with a striking range all the way from Israel in the west to east coast of India don't count ... I'd suggest you stick to war games on a PC only....... These wqeapons are weapons of peace the more coutries have em the more peace there will be. Want examples just ask.

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*Originally posted by Fraudz: *

yawn stick to the topic.

we are discussing what general clark said. discussing israel, USA, burkina faso, burundi, lesotho and Tonga is just a wee bit off topic.
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Yawn it is on the topic you stated pakistan is terrorist base because of poverty!

Israel and Amerikkka export terrorism on daily basis, these two terror states are not poor but they have corruption! If your labelling pakistan hub of terrorism then take a look in your own backyard first!

Save it Abdali, Pakistan isn't using nukes and Pakistan isn't going to war with the U.S.

^ When you have nukes the rules change… Yahooo :jhanda:

*Originally posted by ak47: *

*Yawn it is on the topic you stated pakistan is terrorist base because of poverty! *

In english what I read meant that teh conditions in pakistan serve as a fertile breeding ground for terrorists.

the people impacted by actions of groups like sipah e sahaba nd sipah e muhammad and lashkar e jhangvi would tend to agree with that.

when and where did i say "Pakistan" is terrorist base, as you seem to "think"

*Israel and Amerikkka export terrorism on daily basis, these two terror states are not poor but they have corruption! If your labelling pakistan hub of terrorism then take a look in your own backyard first! *

okay start a different topic and yip yap to yer hearts content there. The topic here is wesley clark's statements.

its not off topic terrorism is not restricted to east of Turkey it is exported by states like amerikka.

As for wesley snipes or wesley clarke and his comments there not a revelation to muslims in general they always knew Amerikkas plan to attack islam under this guise of fighting terrorism

These comments may wake up from the coma the gullible amerikan public, but that is a big ask!

Pakistans nukes destroying US, well thats just a fantasy some ppl would use to reassure themselves... In any case, Pakistan and its leaders are already under American control.

A little occupation didnt harm the Germans or Japanese. Lighten up kiddos - our rickshaws can be the next BMW or Toyota!