I wish to make an honest, no bull.... statement. In the '80's, there were 1.5MIL casualties on the Afgan side, verses around 15,000 Soviet. This was over a 10 year span of time. There is no way the USA has come close to this carnage in the present. In Iraq, many Iraqi soldiers chose to surrender to coalition forces, rather than face defeat fighting them. This decision may have been coerced, but they made the decision in the end. The Qu'ran does warn against the things you claim, rightly so, but does this mean support to those who twist Islam into something not very Islamic?
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I AGREE WITH DILLU COMPLETELY.
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nice pics
" Jin Ki Deed Ki Aas Thi Wo Mile To Rahon Main Yoon Mile, Hum Nazar Utha Ke Tarap Gaye Wo Nazar Jhuka Ke Guzar Gaye "
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Originally posted by ukhalil11:
**Listen, All because USA has labeled Al-qaeda as a terroist group, that doesn't mean that you have to consider them as terrorist too.
USA is the biggest terrorist who has killed more than 1.5 million muslims in iraq and close to a million in afghanistan in the name of terror! Now, would you support the killing of more than 1.5 million muslims in order to punish just one man(Saddam Hussain)? If your answer is yes, I wouldn't be surprised!
Al-qaeda and talibans are mujahideens, they are doing jihad which happens to be the 6th pillar of Islam. I know there are only 5 pillars but jihad is 6th. Now al-qaeda and talibans both are against kuffars(epecially united states) and they did jihad by fightning back.
Now The great Prophet Mohammed(PBUH) did the similar thing, they were against kuffars and did jihad. Now what you(Pakistani tiger) are telling me is that jihad shouldn't even take place.
Jihad is also mentioned in the Quran, so that's what we are suppose to do.
I have mentioned this several times that when a muslim is hurt, every muslims should feel the same pain AND that when a muslim teams up with a kuffar in order to hurt another muslim, he is not a muslim and its clearly written in the Quran.
Here instead of feeling that pain, we are sitting home looking at half-naked models and then sharing that same FITNA around the world. Sad, but it happens to be true.**
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But whats jihad got to do with pictures of Pervez Musharraf???
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Originally posted by RealDeal:
** Why are you ignoring the fact that virtually the only thing Taliban and OBL did was hurt Muslims!
Killers should not be allowed to kill just because they are Muslims! They must be stopped, thank God a chance finally appeared to do it!
Even Yanks give more freedom to Afghans to practice their religion than moronic exteremist OBL and Taleban!**
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well those in power in afghanistan have hurt muslims even more, they dont even come close to Taliban. I am sure you share the same views on the Iranians and the revolutionaries who came into power that they hurt muslims and women and so forth huh?
Mullahs sodomize eh? thats great, i wonder what dostom would say to you calling him a mullah lol.
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PT, I share ur thoughts too...
Good Answer...
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I notice the fundo’s don’t have any answer to the fact that those they claim are waging a jihad have killed tens of thousands of innocent, pious Muslims!
As for that silly Dostum comment, are you saying if someone does an evil act Mullahs can do it as well?
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Pak helping to smash Al-Qaeda
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Ukhalil, I said they are going to burn in hell... Are refers a future tense, if u mollahs know what that is...
Btw, your leaders and heroes are dying out... Your beloved Basra got shot by the Pakistani authorities and now its time for Al-Qanoon...
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Originally posted by Spock:
**Ukhalil, I said they are going to burn in hell... Are refers a future tense, if u mollahs know what that is...
Btw, your leaders and heroes are dying out... Your beloved Basra got shot by the Pakistani authorities and now its time for Al-Qanoon... **
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Like I said before, say whatever you want as long as it makes you feel good. You're not hurting me, words cannot hurt me, I dont care if you call me a mullah or whatever, just say whatever the hell you want AS LONG AS IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER.
Once again I see this central point has been ignored by the ‘mad mullahs’.
Alright, don’t worry about it, we know you have no answer. Just keep ignoring it and pretend it doesn’t happen.
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Tell me this, why should I care about kuffars more than my own muslim brothers?
You're saying that USA has killed a million muslim in Iraq, not true, it's more than 1.5 million muslims! So please, before you say something get your facts straight and it'll make it less embarrasing for you!
And when did I say I like Saddam, SO PLEASE STOP MAKING ASSUMPTIONS! Tell me this, america has blamed al-qaeda for so many things, Does america even have one SOLID PROOF that it was them? I DONT THINK SO!
It's all their propaganda, dont get fooled by it! I was once one like you thinking that america makes peace. LOL, now thanks to allah I know the truth. The biggest rascal, Do u have any idea why the american forces are sitting in Pakistan? They're trying to finish the only Islamic nuclear nation. And it'll thanks to who? Your pyara sa munna Pervez Musharraf.
Listen, again you're pointing your fingers at me, never forget that whenever you point at someone else, the 3 fingers are looking right back at you telling you to fix yourself up first!
May allah(SWT) show you the right path!
Usman Khalil
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Originally posted by ukhalil11:
** You’re saying that USA has killed a million muslim in Iraq, not true, it’s more than 1.5 million muslims! So please, before you say something get your facts straight and it’ll make it less embarrasing for you!**
You are playing at semantics now. Whether it was 1 mil, or 1.5 mil,** my point remains the same** and you can’t change that by continuing your desperate personal attacks.You are simply playing desperate games.
** Tell me this, america has blamed al-qaeda for so many things, Does america even have one SOLID PROOF that it was them? I DONT THINK SO! **
I suppose you forgot the tape where OBL was discussing it with his people. Ok, you probably belive that was a fake (as that needed to be done
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Fine, what about OBL’s tapes on Al-Jazeera where he all but says ‘I did it’?!
Even if he did say ‘I did it’, that still wouldn’t be good enough for you.
**It’s all their propaganda, dont get fooled by it! I was once one like you thinking that america makes peace. LOL, now thanks to allah I know the truth. The biggest rascal, Do u have any idea why the american forces are sitting in Pakistan? They’re trying to finish the only Islamic nuclear nation. **
I never said Yanks were ‘angels’, or Pak’s best friends. I always said they naturally act according to their own national interest.
Not from any kind of religious interest.
Much the same way as all Arab and Muslim countries do.
** And it’ll thanks to who? Your pyara sa munna Pervez Musharraf.**
Ok, you lecture others about making assumptions, and you say this. You obviously haven’t been reading what I post
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You still haven’t commenetd on the horrible treatment of Muslims by the very groups you support. You don’t care that one of OBL’s most proud moments was helping to kill over 20 Muslim Pak soldiers in Somalia. how many Muslim people did OBL feed or educate in Somalia, Afganistan, or ANYWHERE!!
You don’t care that Muslims in Europe were saved by US. You don’t care if people who you consider ‘true Muslims’ actully torture and kill hundreds of thousands of Muslims, for you their words are what counts, not their actions, not what they actually do.
You are just a brainwashed fundo supporting fake hypocrites who are actually destroying Muslims and hurting Islam. You have been too brainwashed to see this.
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The american govt is still better than your heroes as in osama, riaz basra from al-qaeda to al-qanoon... The idiots killed 10 Pakistanis yesterday, how low can they get... And Basra himself admitted to having killed so many Shias in Pakistan... Osama, hes even targetted kenyens!!!
Real Deal is 100% correct... Its because of these mollah type people that we are losing ingenuity and authenticity in our genuine support for the Kashmiri people and their freedom... Call Musharraf or me Qaidiyani (or qaidiyana like u used to say), he will take out these extremists in Pakistan, Inshallah...
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