Re: Present Blasphemy Law is totally against Quran and Sharia (Undeniable Proofs)
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none of us was there.
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You are right, so what we have is all from recorded history books, books on seerat-ul-Nabi, hadith, and stories of that time. Hence, all is written by earlier Muslim, most were not present during the time of Prophet (SAW). Some written materials are truth and some concocted. We may not know the truth but certainly we can discard concocted stories if they are absurd or against Quran. Blasphemy law is against Quran, anyhow, without arguing from Quran, let see what you wrote.
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but get this.
Once a guy come to Omer taking second opinion on prophet's decision, Omer goes in the house bring sword and chops that guys head off.(Please please please tell me I am wrong... It kills me knowing that talban stuff was going on in front of prophet's eyes)
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Is the case you mentioned above, case of Blasphemy? Have you got some problem in understanding?
Regardless of the event you mentioned is (historically) right or wrong, can’t you see the difference between blasphemy and above event? In the event you mentioned, a person who used to claim to be Muslim first went to Prophet (SAW) and after getting the opinion of Prophet (SAW), went to Umar (RA) for second opinion. This shows that the person, regardless of his claim to be Muslim, was unbeliever (a munafiq). If he was a believing Muslim, he would have accepted opinion of Prophet (SAW) without doubt. Worse was that, by asking Umar (RA) for second opinion, he showed expectation that Umar (RA) may differ with the opinion of Prophet (SAW), hence doubting Umar (RA) Iman too. So, obviously, Umar (RA) may have got upset and killed him.
Anyhow, above story is illogical, as Muslim, even if that Muslim was munfaiq, would never have dared to not accept opinion of Prophet (SAW), and even if he did dared, he would not have expected that any other Muslim would have differed with opinion of Prophet (SAW), especially people close to Prophet (SAW), like Umar (RA). Further, I could not see any reason for him to go to Umar (RA), as I could not see what he could have got or expected from Umar (RA) even if Umar (RA) disagreed with prophet (SAW), as Umar (RA) had no authority during life of Prophet (SAW) to overturn Prophet (SAW) opinion or decision.
Story looks more illogical knowing that Umar (RA) was known for his aggressive behaviour and thus no person in his right mind would have gone to Umar (RA) for opinion. Especially, no one would have gone to Umar (RA) for second opinion after having opinion on the matter from Prophet (SAW), even if that person was unbeliever.
All this shows that your story, though it has nothing to do with blasphemy, looks concocted.
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Like I said who ever took refuge in mosques, closed the doors were for given, but blasphemous even holding on to glaaoh-y-kaba were killed(or ordered to kill)
Seems like even that time there was politics and power struggle going on. not every thing was as holy as we like to believe.
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I think you are trying to bring in situation that happened after ‘fatah-e-Mecca’ but again you are completely misguided and wrong.
One of the biggest abuser of Prophet (SAW) and Islam, rather blasphemer in every respect and deserving death was ‘Abdullah ibn Saad ibn Abi As-Srah’. This guy was foster brother of Usman (RA). He became Muslim and ‘Khatib-ul-Quran’ (writer of wahi). Anyhow, later he became apostate, joined rank of Kuffars, and started mocking Prophet (SAW) as well as Quran while amongst Kuffars in Mecca.
According to some records, Prophet (SAW) ordered his killing at the time of fatah-e-Mecca, but after fatah-e-Mecca, ‘Abdullah ibn Saad ibn Abi Srah’ took refuge with Usman (RA). Usman (RA) instead of killing him, he gave him refuge, and when things cooled down Usman (RA) took him to Prophet (SAW) and asked for his forgiveness. After a long pause, Prophet (SAW) forgave him.
Worse is that, during the Khalfat of Usman (RA), same ‘Abdullah bin Saad bin Abi As-Srah’, an apostate, blasphemer, accuser, liar and mocker, was made governor of Egypt. So what you say about that?
Now, what you say about above story? ... you can find story about Abdullah bin Saad bin Abi As-Srah at many places, quoted by many eminent Muslim scholars and Muslim historians ... and if you doubt what I wrote, search yourself, as I gave you the name of the person. Here, Usman (RA) disregarded order of Prophet (SAW) regarding killing that person (an apostate, blasphemer, as well as accuser, liar, and mocker), so what you say about that?
Same is true about 300 Muslims who left Ghazwa-e-Ohad before war started, causing reduction in Muslim army from 1000 to 700, disregarding order of Prophet (SAW) to face 3000 army of Meccan Kuffars outside Madina at Ohad. Well, none got killed or even questioned about their defying Prophet (SAW) order, why?
If Umar (RA) killed a person (as according to your story), then should Umar (RA) had killed Usman (RA) too for giving refuge to apostate, blasphemer, liar, accuser and mocker and not following the order Prophet (SAW) to kill him? ... Or ... Don’t you think all those 300 who left Ohad should have got killed too? ... Or ... you think (nauzobillah), justice was selective at the time of Prophet (SAW), one for person you quoted in your story and other for Usman (RA) and those 300 ... and many more if I go on different stories looking for recorded events of disobedience at the time of Prophet (SAW)?
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Its about time we respect present time as much as we like prophet's time. and is about time we like* paki galeean as much as we like madeny ki galeean*
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You are right that we should respect ‘Sahabas’ and that is why I told you that you should not disrespect them with your 'bohtans' on Sahabas (associating lies with Sahabas).
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An igonorant person like my self can see what miracle prophet was given. But that after 1500 years of qurans exposure. I dont need to harm ppl to make them respect prophet.
But I guess jaleel ul qader sahaba did not believe that prophet's message was enough to get him respect till eternity ????????? so they had to go taliban on ppl...
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Again, I have to say that what you wrote above regarding Sahabas is bohtan on Sahabas (association of lies with Sahabas). So if you are Muslim, try not to lie about them.
If you want to, I can give you more true stories and examples of Prophet (SAW) time that are undisputable, would show that no Sahabas were Kharjees like Taliban and thus none killed anyone because of Blasphemy.
Note: You quoted story of Umar (RA), so remember that, if Sahabas were killing people for blasphemy then they would have killed Umar (RA) even before he embraced Islam, as before embracing Islam, Umar (RA) was one of the biggest blasphemer, abusing and accusing Prophet (SAW) as well as Islam, such that at one time he even decided to kill Prophet (SAW). So, what you say about that?
How about those who wrongly alleged Aisha (RA) and caused so much hurt to Prophet (SAW), worse being those who spread rumour about Aisha (RA). Were they not blasphemer (all of them were Muslims), indirectly hurting Prophet (SAW) with their absurd accusations on Aisha (RA)? What happened? Why Sahabas did not killed those who were wrongly alleging Aisha (RA) and those spreading rumours, thus indirectly hurting Prophet (SAW)?
