Praying Sunnat vs. just Farz

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i have a related question. I was browsing for references Sahih Muslim for this thread when I came across this hadith:

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/004.smt.html#004.1516

Now I have thought that this was the shia opinion, and sunnis strictly observed seperation between namazes because it was effectively qaza/gunah for them not to do so. Evidently it is not from over here. My room mate was surprised to see this hadith too, because he thought it could only be done during travel.

why do sunnis not allow themselves to combine the two prayers (zohr-asr, maghrib-isha)? I know its best to pray awwal waqt, and devout shia tend to do that, but what about us lazy types :slight_smile: (particularly when its ‘unnecessary’ hardship)?

ps: isnt my uni great :sunglasses:

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i see shiaas here in bahrain always combine prayers....

sunnis however limt themselves to combining prayes only when needed....
e.g. when its raining hard, or other circumstances where it is difficult to go....

like a doctor (surgeon) performing an operation might go past the zuhr prayer, he can combine it with asar....
or perhaps he has to start after zuhr and might finishg when asar prayer is done, he can combine the zuhr and asar and pray before the asar time....

it is allowed, just not preferred to do so habitually....

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theres nothing wrong with habitually doing something thats preferred. the problem arises when people start thinking that the preferred route is the required route, as Code_red pointed out.

the same with sunnat namaz, and with the seperation of prayers. particularly in the second instance, i know that the prevailing thought amongst my circle of friends was that zuhr gets qaza'ed by asar.

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I think different posts have given the answer to this quote, but nobody has yet replied as to how sunnis/hanafis pray sunnah almost always with faraz nimaz. I guess we need to do more research and study Imam abu Hanifa’s teachings to this effect.

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theres nothing wrong with habitually doing something thats preferred. QUOTE]

combining prayers is an option but is definitely not the preferred option…

Quran mentions it clearly that prayer (salaat) is made fardh on time basis, hence it must be prayed on its own time…

hence the preferred option is to pray every prayer on its own time…

combining is an option which shud not be made into a habit…

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What are the number of rakats for zohrain (zuhar-asar combined) and maghribaain (maghrib and isha combined) ?

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combination of prayers and shortening of prayers is a separate issue....

u still pray the original number of rakaats when u combine prayers....
so it will be 4+4 for zuhr and asar....
and 3+4 for maghreb and ishaa....

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Dont know if anybody answered with what Im about to say.Anyhow here it is. The reason Sunnah prayers are important is because if you msised farz prayers for some reason, then the Sunnah prayers will be used to make up for those lost prayers - come Day of Judgment.

Plus there are certain times when the reward of Sunnah prayers is equal to farz prayers.

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so you guys don’t pray Qaza for fardh salah, hoping sunnah prayers will act as your insurance policy?

According to jafari fiqh, no other prayers can make up for fardh prayers except fardh qazaa, with same number of rakaats etc.

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Yes we pray Qaza and farz prayers.

But I doubt if anybody does so all the time . And I will see if I can dig some Hadiths or Ayas for the reason or importance of Sunnah prayers.

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so a person who wont read 2,3, 4 rakaats daily (fardh), how can you expect them to read 12-plus rakaats of Sunnah plus the obligatory qaza fardh?!