Re: PPP frustation on the success of Karachi Jalsa of PTI
Yes, off course. But reading the happy posts, it seems he is already won the elections. ;)
Anyways, no point asking current failed Govt. in this (Baluchistan) regard as well. If something big they can do now, that may save PPP from future complete failure in elections. (Off topic)
Is there a particular policy/statement which makes you so apprehensive of his actions in Baluchistan? Did he say he is going to divert drones to Baluchistan?
Re: PPP frustation on the success of Karachi Jalsa of PTI
I am only giving a reality check.
In light of your "reality check", I asked you those questions and I am still intrested in knowing that: In your opinion, what should people do? Try again those tried, tested and proven failures or give someone new a chance? It's just a question, nothing personal :)
Your second statement is not fair. I did not say "I want A to succeed and B to lose.
I am not at all accusing of anything. My question is again straight and simple: Whose success will make you happy? "Elements within and outside the country" or the "new kid on the block"? Again, nothing serious, nothing personal... just for my information and education.
Re: PPP frustation on the success of Karachi Jalsa of PTI
I believe these comments from IK came when he wanted all govts to be sacked, even here he apparently criticized the government and not necessarily against the people of Baluchistan. When IK talked about sacking govts I was against him on that stance.
What did he actually say about plans for lets say people of KPK or Punjab that makes others think that he has plan for other provinces and not for Sindh and Baluchistan?
Re: PPP frustation on the success of Karachi Jalsa of PTI
Diwana you are just making sweeping statements and passing judgements based on your personal assumptions
First you said IK/PTI would not be sincere to Karachi and Karachiites (or something similar)!! Don't really know how you came to that conclusion!! But why not think about the whole country rather than just your own area??
Now you are doubting his ability to solve the problems of Balochistan as if *aglon ney barey jhandey gaar diye hein yahan *(don't know how you arrive at such strange conclusions)
How can we judge the guy when he has never held a public office? Let him win an election first. You don't need rocket science to know what needs to be done in Balochistan...
Re: PPP frustation on the success of Karachi Jalsa of PTI
In light of your "reality check", I asked you those questions and I am still intrested in knowing that: In your opinion, what should people do? Try again those tried, tested and proven failures or give someone new a chance? It's just a question, nothing personal :)
I am not at all accusing of anything. My question is again straight and simple: Whose success will make you happy? "Elements within and outside the country" or the "new kid on the block"? Again, nothing serious, nothing personal... just for my information and education.
Again, all I am saying he may not be able to give what he says. That is the reality unfortunately.. People will do whatever they want. He has a past which is based on either failure or prejudice. At the moment no one really is capable to overcome big issues faced by the country.
Re: PPP frustation on the success of Karachi Jalsa of PTI
Diwana you are just making sweeping statements and passing judgements based on your personal assumptions
First you said IK/PTI would not be sincere to Karachi and Karachiites (or something similar)!! Don't really know how you came to that conclusion!! But why not think about the whole country rather than just your own area??
Now you are doubting his ability to solve the problems of Balochistan as if *aglon ney barey jhandey ukhar diye hein yahan *(don't know how you arrive at such strange conclusions)
How can we judge the guy when he has never held a public office yet? Let him win an election first. You don't need rocket science to know what needs to be done in Balochistan...
Mark my words: He has no concrete plan. He has not made friends in these areas. His past will haunt him since he is a controversial person. He will get some seats. The election results will be divided. GHQ may intervene. Result in the end will be we know all.
Added: He may even win big time. But nothing big will come out from him.
Re: PPP frustation on the success of Karachi Jalsa of PTI
Mark my words: He has no concrete plan. He has not made friends in these areas. His past will haunt him since he in a controversial person. He will get some seats. The election results will be divided. GHQ may intervene. Result in the end will be we know all.
so.... we should vote for those who have concrete plans, lots of friends, able to deliver what they promise, have a detailed roadmap to improve situation in Sindh and Baluchistan ..... hmmmmm....... kaun hain woh? I'm sure people living abroad can suggest Conservative and Unionist Party or Labour Party or Democrats or Republicans...............
He hasn't really spelled out detailed plans for Punjab or NWFP either. Does that mean he cannot do anything about those either?
If he is able to bring a little bit of improvement deliver on 5% of his promises, he'll be fantastic. The only direction we have gone in the past 10 years is downwards, and anyone SINCERE enough to even reduce the speed with which we're destroying our country is welcome.
Re: PPP frustation on the success of Karachi Jalsa of PTI
But after a year or so, we have to vote. **Do you suggest that we should not vote or should we go for the best option available which is not a proven failure? **
Re: PPP frustation on the success of Karachi Jalsa of PTI
so.... we should vote for those who have concrete plans, lots of friends, able to deliver what they promise, have a detailed roadmap to improve situation in Sindh and Baluchistan ..... hmmmmm....... kaun hain woh? I'm sure people living abroad can suggest Conservative and Unionist Party or Labour Party or Democrats or Republicans...............
He hasn't really spelled out detailed plans for Punjab or NWFP either. Does that mean he cannot do anything about those either?
If he is able to bring a little bit of improvement deliver on 5% of his promises, he'll be fantastic. The only direction we have gone in the past 10 years is downwards, and anyone SINCERE enough to even reduce the speed with which we're destroying our country is welcome.
Kaka bhai:
This is the reason so many of us are jumping on the wagon.
These are the same arguments why every 'new drama baaz' gets elected.
Unfortunately no one including myself can see/tell who really can defeat anti-country forces in and out of country.
Re: PPP frustation on the success of Karachi Jalsa of PTI
Vote for the person you feel comfortable with. The one who you are sure will get you what you need. If you think IK or his nominated person is best then go for it.
Re: PPP frustation on the success of Karachi Jalsa of PTI
Vote for the person you feel comfortable with. The one who you are sure will get you what you need. If you think IK or his nominated person is best then go for it.
Thanx for your answer. I ask myself three questions:
1: Do not vote [That amounts to treason to me] 2: Give them another chance [That's treason too...] 3: Give someone else a chance [No one can beat the incumbents anyway!]
I feel comfortable with option 3 :) For reasons, read option 1 and option 2.
Re: PPP frustation on the success of Karachi Jalsa of PTI
Thanx for your answer. I ask myself three questions:
1: Do not vote [That amounts to treason to me]
2: Give them another chance [That's treason too...]
3: Give someone else a chance [No one can beat the incumbents anyway!]
I feel comfortable with option 3 :) For reasons, read option 1 and option 2.
Whoever you choose. You have a right to choose bhai sahab.
