Police in Hamas-ruled Gaza shave heads of youths with long or gel-styled hair

[bao_bihari]

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@Southie

Why is this a non issue? And why are you being an apologist for Fundamentalists? Is there some threshold of stupidity and intolerance from the Fundamentalists, below which their absurdity should not be reported?

What is shameful about OP’s post?

@phoenixdesi

and what about the misery that hamas is bringing to Palestinians..

do u have any idea that hamas is again firing rockets into southern israel …it is reported in the press but i also know this because a European friend is planning to pedal a bike 300 miles across Israel’s hot Negev Desert from Jerusalem to Eilat in the south and the biggest fear right now is freakin hamas rockets…now he is an impartial Christian but he was very upset with hamas tactics..

now when israel will retaliate, and yes the response may very well be proportionately-speaking brutal, people like you will be the first one to start screaming and yelling…hamas will put kids’ dead bodies on roads to get emotional support…we know this cycle too well by now…but who is really responsible for those kids death…hamas or israel..

i promised myself after last isreal-hamas fight that i will keep a track of offenses committed by both sides and so far hamas is doing it for most part…

shame on you for being an apologist for Fundamentalists…

@Shamraz_Khan

Your attempt to defend Hamas’s action prove you have no creditability & there is no difference between Hamas and Islamists else where. This is what Taliban were doing in Afghanistan when they ruled country.

Taliban arrest soccer players for wearing shorts
A Pakistani football team that went to play some matches in the Afghan city of Kandahar has returned home after being arrested for wearing shorts.

The Taleban authorities said the wearing of shorts during a match violated the Islamic dress code.

The players were not only arrested, but also had their heads shaved as punishment.

The Pakistani team, from the border town of Chaman, had gone to Kandahar for a series of friendly matches.

On Saturday, they were in the middle of their third match, when the Taleban authorities moved into the stadium arresting 12 members of the squad.

Another five Pakistani players managed to escape.

But the 12 who were detained had their heads shaved as punishment before being sent back to Pakistan.

They are now back in their homes in Chaman. Pakistani officials there have refused to comment on the incident.

Reports from Kandahar say that several spectators were injured in a stampede that followed the arrests.

The Taleban have frequently been criticised by Western governments and non-governmental organisations for enforcing strict rules on what women must wear.

They have been criticised in particular for the requirement that women cover their heads and faces.

But as these arrests show, there are also rules which apply to men.

The Taleban have banned men from wearing western clothes and a display of flesh, even in a sporting event, can be considered a punishable offence.

According to Annova (7/17/00) Maulvi Hameed Akhund, a Taliban official, said: “They were arrested because they violated the Islamic dress code, which outlaws exposing any parts of the body.”

Thank you for replying. Just wanted to share the fact that i have not read these posts because i can understand what could be written in these posts.

Sorry bhaiyo for wasting your time,i have not wasted mine.

May ALLAH give success to hamas and all mujahideen in palestine in throwing the israeli oppressors out of our sacred places.

[picoico]

Re: Police in Hamas-ruled Gaza shave heads of youths with long or gel-styled hair

@phoenixdesi

where did i say Palestinians are living hunky dory? i am pointing out the misery brought on them by hamas actions .....which part do you differ? that hamas did not fire rockets on israel in last 3 weeks? did you read my post?

"Did you read my post"...I should ignore this post because of that refrain. Don't flatter yourself...nothing of consequence was written that wasn't addressed in my sardonic response. You're drawing a false causality. As mentioned already by others, Hamas firing rockets, and indeed finding themselves in power, is precisely because of the situation the Palestinians og Gaza are in.

Nothing else you've added changes that fact. Is Hamas cracking down on dress and style? Sure. Do they have a mandate from the people to do so? We'll know for sure next election.

What I can fault the police with is taking summary action. That does not bode well for Hamas and their style of rule.

[picoico]

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That maybe true,but we are not taking about that. We are taking about Hamas police forcibly shaving men heads in Gaza. And that is not only true in Gaza, but just one example what people do in the name of religions. Once Islamists take over any place, first to go are individual freedoms. It happened in Iran, Afghanistan, Gaza and parts of Pakistan, and Egypt. They do not believe in the concept of individual freedom because they think they know what is best for every one else.

THIS is the example of a violation of individual freedom you want to cite? Never mind the fact that the people of Gaza are living in a virtual internment camp, in a state of siege?

[Southie]

Re: Police in Hamas-ruled Gaza shave heads of youths with long or gel-styled hair

Thank you for replying. Just wanted to share the fact that i have not read these posts because i can understand what could be written in these posts.

Sorry bhaiyo for wasting your time,i have not wasted mine.:)

May ALLAH give success to hamas and all mujahideen in palestine in throwing the israeli oppressors out of our sacred places.

Maybe you ought to read the other two gentlemen's posts. You just might learn something:)

[psyah]

Re: Police in Hamas-ruled Gaza shave heads of youths with long or gel-styled hair

@phoenixdesi

where did i say Palestinians are living hunky dory? i am pointing out the misery brought on them by hamas actions .....which part do you differ? that hamas did not fire rockets on israel in last 3 weeks? did you read my post?

and did you read the above article? is it only talking about hair cut? or is it talking about many other depressing actions taken by hamas such as:

***It has issued rules restricting women or requiring them to cover up in the traditional Islamic dress of long robes and headscarves, but relented if met by protests.

Last month, the Hamas government barred girls and women from participating in a U.N.-sponsored marathon, prompting a U.N. aid agency to cancel the race. Hamas activists have also exerted social pressure to get all school girls to wear Islamic dress.

In another incident, a Gaza teen, who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution, said he saw police beat three young men in downtown Gaza City for wearing tight, low-rise pants. The witness said the policemen beat the three with clubs on the backs of their knees and told passers-by watching the scene to move along.

***so why keep talking abt hair cuts only and deliberately ignoring many other actions taken by hamas which show a a certain behavioral/social pattern on behalf of hamas?

comprehension problem or intellectual dishonesty? please guide.

Sister pheonixdesi .... Why did the Washington post article feature the haircuts before featuring these three sections ....??? In my estimation these are more important than the hair cut fiasco ... I personally think they are just filling out their pages and meeting the quota of their agenda from their Zionist fund providers.

[psyah]

Re: Police in Hamas-ruled Gaza shave heads of youths with long or gel-styled hair

^ no one denies there are human rights violations happening. But that does not mean religion driven violations by Hamas should not be reported. Both can and should be reported. Akin to walking and chewing gum at the same time. Wrong is wrong. Period.

There is a predictable group of folks here who protest any time something negative is reported on groups or faith they are supportive of.

Peace Southie

Well I don't believe those reports ... I think they be lies ... Clear cut lies ... You know why? It's not because I think Hamas are angels ... It's because it doesn't make sense ... You just need to consult your heart and realise their is something fishy about this story that Shamraz is propagating.

[Southie]

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^ Peace Psyah. I don't have information to conclude if this story is true or not. Shamraz is quite reliable.

Just checked. Story is from AP.

[Shamraz_Khan]

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Peace Southie

You just need to consult your heart and realise their is something fishy about this story that Shamraz is propagating.

Yes, b/c I have to get my weekly paycheck from Zionists by propagating anti Hamas news...after all Hamas is beacon of hope, peace, love and freedom.

[Shamraz_Khan]

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THIS is the example of a violation of individual freedom you want to cite? Never mind the fact that the people of Gaza are living in a virtual internment camp, in a state of siege?

Yes, they live in internment camp, but should violations of human rights, within the camp, by the people you admire be ignored in the name of a religion?

[picoico]

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Yes, they live in internment camp, but should violations of human rights, within the camp, by the people you admire be ignored in the name of a religion?

When you use the rhetoric of human rights violations, you must not be blind to the greater violations. If, and it's a big if, the intent of this article was to highlight human rights violations rather than paint Hamas as unpalatable to a Western audience (i.e. propaganda), then the article is remiss to remain silent on the greater violations or at the very least mention those abuses as well, if indeed human rights is such a concern.

[Southie]

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I have no doubt article on such human rights violations are available. This article happened to be about how the conservatives are abusing their own people. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Captain1]

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@phoenixdesi

this is state terrorism.....complete interference** in one's personal life and harassing them**

When you bring your act into public, it becomes state's problem to deal. If you roam around nude in your house, go ahead, when you go out nude in public that's social problem and state has to deal with it.

[Shamraz_Khan]

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^^^ Really, walking around nude is same as walking around with hair gel? What kind of social problems exist b/c people use hair gel? And how is what Hamas is doing diff compare to when Taliban were measuring men beard's length? Where does person's freedom and individual existence start and state authority ends?

[kaka_in_usa]

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@phoenixdesi

so are you endorsing such state-sanctioned social behavior? thx also if u dont mind telling, what is listed on the flag in your emoticon? thx

You cant see me cuz i am a Ninja?

[khoji]

Re: Police in Hamas-ruled Gaza shave heads of youths with long or gel-styled hair

@phoenixdesi

i promised myself after last isreal-hamas fight that i will keep a track of offenses committed by both sides and so far hamas is doing it for most part...

errr... you need to see who prefers the status quo. It is ISRAEL.
Israel would like Palestinians to remain "peaceful" regardless of the brutal suppression, occupation, and usurption it is causing among Palestinian people.

That cyclist in Israel is oh-so-worried about rockets being fired from "there". That place whose WHOLE POPULATION is under full embargo.
Such a cyclist who is oblivious to the plight of innocent people and wishes to enjoy his holidays in Israel, is definitely not an "impartial" person.

[bao_bihari]

Re: Police in Hamas-ruled Gaza shave heads of youths with long or gel-styled hair

@Shamraz_Khan

^^^ Really, walking around nude is same as walking around with hair gel? What kind of social problems exist b/c people use hair gel? And how is what Hamas is doing diff compare to when Taliban were measuring men beard’s length? Where does person’s freedom and individual existence start and state authority ends?

shukriya for highlighting one of the core issue of the world.

Whats next

Why taliban take dikaar after drinking lassi?

[Captain1]

Re: Police in Hamas-ruled Gaza shave heads of youths with long or gel-styled hair

@Shamraz_Khan

^^^ Really, walking around nude is same as walking around with hair gel? What kind of social problems exist b/c people use hair gel? And how is what Hamas is doing diff compare to when Taliban were measuring men beard's length? Where does person's freedom and individual existence start and state authority ends?

so you think if someone is walking around naked the punishment is "shaving heads"?

[khoji]

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@bao_bihari

shukriya for highlighting one of the core issue of the world.

Whats next

Why taliban take dikaar after drinking lassi?

That may not be the “core issue of the world”. But such issues are important enough that extremists will lose support in Gaza. We witnesses this phenomenon in Iraq and Kashmir already.

[AlexB]

Re: Police in Hamas-ruled Gaza shave heads of youths with long or gel-styled hair

I can tell what's wrong with Gaza. After the Israeli withdrawal and with the torrent of investments from all over the world, it could become a Switzerland of the Middle East. Instead, Hamas took over, and declared 1) a continuous war against Israel until Israel is destroyed or till the last Palestinian (whatever comes first), and 2) enforcement of the Sharia law (Hamas style) on all residents of Gaza. The rocket fire into Israel supported the declaration. Israel responded with a maritime blockade and the rest is history.