Re: PML[Q] Former NA Speaker lashes out at Musharraf
^^ If General Niazi can have dignified funeral, then Mush can get the same, more or less both have done samething....
He didn't pick Zardari. Zardari & co. won on sympathy votes.
and who opened doors for likes of Zardari?
Re: PML[Q] Former NA Speaker lashes out at Musharraf
Musharraf a relic of past: Aslam Beg
just now LAHORE - Former Chief of Army Staff General(r)Mirza Aslam Beg has said February 18 election results were against the expectations of President Musharraf and the United States. Musharraf is a relic of the past and we should look forward now
Addressing the gathering of lawyers of Lahore Bar Association (LBA) here Thursday at Aiwan-e-Adl ahead of lawyers weekly rally, Beg said the revolution, which the US wants in Pakistan, will come through conspiracies rather than movements. He said that political and religious parties have been involved in conspiracies in one or other form.
He said to strengthen their movement the lawyers will have to persuade political parties to join them. He called for the formation of a national coordination committee in this regard. He said the lawyers should have participated in by-election so that they could raise their voice on floor of assemblies.
Beg disclosed that once Nawaz Sharif carried out nuclear tests, his exit was written on the wall as Americans had a gut feeling that their interests in the region were under threat.
Aslam Baig criticised the role of the America regarding democratic process in the country as well as religious parties. He said forces are trying to sabotage the public mandate and if it happens, it will be a great national loss. He said Benazir Bhutto’s assassination changed people’s minds that could might bring a revolution in Pakistan.
He said that everyone should sit together and decide the procedure how to enforce the public mandate. General Kayani’s decision to keep army out of politics is a vital step, he added.
Beg said the lawyers must have their political agenda to ensure success of their struggle for independent judiciary. He said the lawyers need to convey their message to the elected assemblies as it is need of the hour.
He observed that the lawyers’ struggle was facing hardships and it had also entered in a crucial phase as conspiracies were being hatched against their struggle. He said the lawyers should have the support of political parties to counter the conspiracies adding for this purpose all democratic forces including PML-N , PPPP, APDM and others must unite to save the present coalition government.
Beg said that he was shocked that Aitzaz Ahsan withdrew his candidature for contesting the polls. He appreciated the public,media and political parties for joining the lawyers’ movement and termed it the blessings of the Almighty Allah.
He urged the lawyers and media to work for the national reconciliation in the interest of the country.
He urged all the democratic forces to support the ruling parties to save the democratic system from external conspiracies." All political parties must honour the public mandate of February 18 and try to save the coalition government because if it failed then there would be a lot of problems including chaos and uncertaininty," he concluded.
Manzoor Qadir President LBA, Abdul Latif Sera Secretary LBA and other leaders of the lawyers also addressed and vowed to continue their struggle till the restoration of the judges.
Re: PML[Q] Former NA Speaker lashes out at Musharraf
Editorial: Soft landing for Musharraf?
** A credible source in the high command of the PPP has said that President Pervez Musharraf is prepared to leave office in weeks and not months in order to avoid the possibility of any unpleasant confrontation arising out of any attempt to impeach him. **Of course, the president’s spokesmen and party loyalists say nothing of the sort is planned and that the president intends to complete his full five-year term. It is also known that the PPP doesn’t yet have the numbers to go after him in parliament and that it might have to wait until next year when the senate elections will provide the magic figure. But given the common anti-Musharraf sentiment in Pakistan, an impeachment would be popular, to say the least. But the PPP says it would rather see him go with “some dignity” if he gives up the presidency voluntarily.
Meanwhile, the opposition, lawyers and a coterie of ex-army officers and bureaucrats are clamouring to have **President Musharraf prosecuted for acts of omission and commission when he was in power. **Mr Nawaz Sharif and his PMLN followers lead the pack seeking revenge for alleged personal and institutional affronts. Under the circumstances, President Musharraf would do the right thing by surveying the national scene, taking the pulse of the exaggeratedly negative passions of the people at large and decide on his departure well before any move for impeachment is made. We say this because there is a serious problem with an agreement within the ruling coalition on what to do with him once he is out of office.
The motivation behind any attempt by the PPP to agree to impeach him would clearly be its unwillingness to be seen at large as tolerating a personality that its own rank and file do not care for too much. And they have a reason for hating him. One can recall his own negative remarks about the party and Mr Zardari after having signed the National Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO). Unfortunately, there is now a competition in the country on how harshly one can criticise the president, and the PMLN seems to be winning against the PPP. Mr Sharif has made his mind public on what he would like President Musharraf to go through after being deposed. He wants criminal proceedings against him on charges of treason. But as soon as the nemesis descends on President Musharraf, other accusations will surely start piling up too.
**The worst part is that President Musharraf’s own erstwhile protégés are now speaking out against him. And the two recent ones who came on TV to bad-mouth him once formed a part of his policy to overload the civilian system with serving and retired army officers on attractive salaries and perks and plots. **In this context it would be fair to say that General (Retd) Jamshed Gulzar Kayani, one such greatly favoured recipient, has touched the extreme in his own ham-handed and dishonest way by recommending that President Musharraf be tried and punished for the 1999 coup, for Kargil, for Lal Masjid etc. No one has bothered to ask him why he didn’t resign if he had disagreed with President Musharraf’s policies. Indeed, no one has bothered to list the favours he received as a key member of President Musharraf’s team when all these events took place. Another general, General (Retd) Abdul Qayyum, who got the lucrative post of chairman of Pakistan Steel Mills, has already recommended the registration of an FIR against him. General (Retd) Asad Durrani, who served as his loyal ambassador, and General (retd) Moinuddin Haider, who was his interior minister and also governor of Sindh province, are also in an unforgiving mood. President Musharraf did not listen to anyone when he was being advised not to bung the civilian bureaucracy with his buddies from the army. Now the same buddies are baying for his blood. Another gathering of retired generals has suggested an even more terrifying fate for him, notwithstanding the fact that many of them should have faced accountability for their own deeds when they enjoyed offices of power in the country.
The regime of President Musharraf had two generally accepted successes to its name — foreign policy and the economy —which actually started to sour gradually over a period of time till they reached collapse by the end of 2007**.** His foreign policy got stuck regionally when he could not decide to break the fetters of the old routine towards India despite his “out of the box” approach, and he kept losing ground against the rising tide of terrorism in Pakistan and its spill-over into Afghanistan. He also made a great mistake when he didn’t listen to criticism against Mr Shaukat Aziz, his finance minister and prime minister, for recklessly opting for a model of short-term growth that was unsustainable in the medium term. World Bank officials say that they told Mr Aziz that he would get into trouble with the energy situation following the high growth rate that the country was posting. :hehe:
Therefore the fact that the PPP is willing to give him an honourable exit is good news because Pakistan has the reputation by now of fouling up all kinds of accountability. Both the mainstream parties did it to each other until their conscience forced them to repent. Pakistan’s foreign friends are already inclined to advise moderation in this regard. And once Mr Musharraf is gone from the corridors of power, the performance or lack of it of governments in the post-Musharraf period will finally help the passionate people of Pakistan to decide whether his role in the country’s history was wholly negative or partially positive.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008\06\06\story_6-6-2008_pg3_1
and who opened doors for likes of Zardari?
Isn't that what the democracy "starved" civil society wanted?
Isn't that what the democracy "starved" civil society wanted?
Civil society also wanted many other things like judiciary independence, how come only what suited his needs was provided?
Re: PML[Q] Former NA Speaker lashes out at Musharraf
More and more rally against Musharraf:
Ex-diplomats rally against Musharraf
ISLAMABAD, June 8: A group of retired senior diplomats, including former foreign secretaries, announced on Sunday support for the lawyers’ community and said they would actively take part in the ‘long march’ starting on Monday to press for restoration of the pre-Nov 3 judiciary.
Shamshad Ahmed Khan, Riaz Khokhar, Akram Zaki, Dr Samiullah Qureshi, Asif Aizdi and Salim Anwar Khan Gandapur made the announcement at a press conference at the Islamabad Press Club.
Criticising Gen (retd) Pervez Musharraf for imposing the state of emergency, they said some members of their group would join the long march in Karachi while others would stay in Islamabad to receive the march which is likely to culminate in the federal capital on June 12.
Mr Shamshad Ahmed said the group included 30 retired foreign secretaries who thought they should come forward to support the cause being pursued by lawyers and supported recently by ex-servicemen.
The diplomats have served the country at different times and know the ups and downs the country faced over the past 60 years. “They are real patriots and have guided the governments time to time on different issues. It is the need of the time that we should come out against the wrongdoings of President Musharraf,” he said.
The former secretaries urged the Pakistan People’s Party to honour the mandate the nation had given it in the Feb 18 elections and restore all deposed judges, including Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry.
Mr Riaz Khokhar said that foreign secretaries, during service, were supposed to give objective guidelines to the government on foreign affairs and now after retirement they were giving their opinion in the best interest of the country.
Mr Salim Anwar said that President Musharraf should not be given any safe passage; rather he should be impeached and held answerable for his deeds.
Meanwhile, Adviser to the Prime Minister on Interior Rehman Malik said the government would not stop lawyers from coming to Islamabad.
“We will welcome them and Pakistan People’s Party will fully participate in the long march,” he told reporters.
Civil society also wanted many other things like judiciary independence, how come only what suited his needs was provided?
I didn't know Ifti was running for election also.
Re: PML[Q] Former NA Speaker lashes out at Musharraf
Musharafs poles are khulling :D
Re: PML[Q] Former NA Speaker lashes out at Musharraf
Rehman Malik now talks about impeaching Musharraf
ISLAMABAD: Advisor to the Prime Minister on Interior, Rehman Malik has said that legal procedure will be adopted to impeach the President. Talking to media, Malik said Pakistan Peoples Party initiated the Long March and PPP fully supports lawyers’ Long March.
Re: PML[Q] Former NA Speaker lashes out at Musharraf
Even retd old babas are questioning musharraf’s manhood:
LAHORE - Former president of Pakistan Muhammad Rafiq Tarar has said the president must not be a part of the Parliament.
He said this Monday while commenting on the desire shown by the prime minister and others on the ruling side for address of President Pervez Musharraf to the joint session of the Parliament. Tarar said address of a president to the joint session is an imperative need under the Constitution and before Musharraf no president in the country had ever ignored the same. Pointing to General (r) Musharraf, he said, ‘the commando’ is hollow of courage to address the Parliament although he brags about his bravery in the public. Musharraf does not have potential to face the joint session as per the Constitutional requirement of the President’s office, he said, adding that Ghulam Ishaq Khan had himself addressed the joint Parliament as long as the elected govt was in place.
He said parliamentary proceedings are not affected if the President does not address the joint session yet a person who claims himself to be a president, if does not address the session, he inflicts on himself the stamp of a ‘coward’ and conveys message to others that he was so inane of potential that he was afraid of addressing the Parliament. He said if such was the courage of that person, what havoc he can play with the country, one can imagine.
Rafiq Tarar said the eighth constitutional amendment had made president a part of the Parliament, but the time has come to put his office out of it.
Address of a president is a constitutional requirement which Musharraf is not fulfilling fearing go-Musharraf-go slogans him in the Parliament which shows his ‘cowardice,’ he added. He said Musharraf had only once addressed the last Parliament during its five years and later on called it uncivilised parliament but inface he was not bold enough to address the parliament while his ‘cowardice’ can be gauged from the fact that America is daily bombing our areas and he does not have courage to speak a single word against the US.
In fact Mushrraf is not a president but one who has occupied this slot by force, Rafiq Tarar maintained.
Re: PML[Q] Former NA Speaker lashes out at Musharraf
Rafiq Tarar, wasn't he president for 2 weeks or something under Nawaz?
Re: PML[Q] Former NA Speaker lashes out at Musharraf
He was also president for ‘Musharraf’ for a year or two 
I didn't know Ifti was running for election also.
He was running for elections just like Musharraf was.
He was from Nawaz league, and seems like he was ok with Mush as long as he got his paycheck. No paycheck, no happy tarrar.