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Wow Gemini, I just finished posting my incident and I saw your post! Amazing, this is so trippy!
oh woww I guess it was pretty common for people to help each other out during the tough times :-)
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But keep in mind the condition Muslims are in India. They are blacks of India. Most of them are poor and live in ghettos. This is why most criminals called 'bhais' are Muslims. Pakistan with all its problems is still better than India. At least in my opinion.
I hope Sindhis in interior Sindh can develop more. It will relieve some burden from Karachi.
^This shows that you dont think like a Pakistani. You live in your own little ethnic world.
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Why? How?
So I am not supposed to hope for development in Sindh?
You don't understand what I meant by the word 'burden'. It was not meant for Sindhis, because Sindhis are hardly visible in Karachi. I used the word 'burden' in the sense that Sindh will have more prosperous areas, and Karachi won't be the only city on which the whole province relies on.
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My Nana along with his two brothers were in the fields when their village was attacked by Sikhs. They ran back to their houses and along with others tried to defend, all three of them were killed. But my naani along with her kids managed to esape. My mother and my aunt were visiting a relative at that time. My nani left, without knowing what happened to them. The woman whose house my mother was took her, my aunt and her twin sons who were just few months old and left too. My aunt was only 9 years and she carried my mother who was only 6 months old. On the way of the kids of the lady died, whom she left unburried in the fields. They travelled through the night and by the morning joined a group of migrating people. My nani and my uncles searched for my mother and the lady in refugeee camps and found my mother and aunt after 2 weeks.
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Incredible story Iconoclast! That is truly amazing! Serious respect to your family brutha!
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I can't imagine going through stuff like this! the stories are so inspiring....it makes me shudder to think about searching for my family in refugee camps...not knowing if they made it or not...my mom told me that she read somewhere that a train was coming from amritsar to lahore and when the train stopped...no one came out...so people went inside and saw that everyone in the train had been massacred..
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During that time, there was a lot of hatred on both sides of the newly-defined border. And both people committed atrocities against each other. I'm not going to get into a debate of who started it and how it ended and all that. I know people on both sides who died. So allow the useless arguments.
My great-grandfather during his time was very influential personality in our native town. My Nana Abbu tells us now, at the time of the partition the locals were attacking Hindus in retaliation for massacres of Muslims leaving India. He gave shelter to the entire Hindu population in the mohalla in his dera and then with my grandfather, they stood at the dera with rifles, to deter anyone getting any ideas about harming these people. After the initial frenzy had subsided, he gave a talk to his mohalla and after he was done he had managed to convince the people to help him in the cause of protecting these people who had been friends or associates or neighbours just a few months ago! So then armed to the teeth, a group of people including my Nana Abbu and great-grandfather escorted the Hindus to one of the caravans enroute to India.
While in the UK, I met an Indian businessman who is a very wealthy shipping tycoon of sorts. So we got talking about Pakistan and India (As it always happens lol) and I told him about my background and he told me about his and guess what! The guy started kissing my hands and gave me his card and said he wanted to get in touch with my Par-Nana (Allah bless his soul) or Nana-Abbu if he was still alive (MashaAllah he still is) and that if my family ever needed any help or support in anything I should contact him. I was overwhelmed at his behaviour and I called up my Nana-Abbu and got those guys in touch because the families were infact 'friends' of sorts in the town.
He was one of the children in that caravan and had grown up hearing that story from his parents.
I always thought it was such a beautiful incident. A story that transcends hate and fundamentalism. Islam does not encourage retaliation against unrelated persons or groups or communities. Justice must be fair and served with a cool head. I hope our people get some sense and see our religion for what it is. I am proud to call myself a Pakistani and belong to a family who truly honoured the foundation of my country.
Long live Pakistan!
nice, thanks for the no hate, and balanced post :-), it was heartwarming to read about the businessman and bringing people together that might have lost touch, gives peace of mind
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My grandfather fabled for his warrior mentality, overran a Sikh village in Kashmir and threatened to wreak devastation on the inhabitants unless the Chief handed over all the young women for marriage.
My grandmother (chieftain's daughter) 15 at the time, was abducted and taken away. After partition, she was reclaimed by her relatives in India. She had to leave all her young children behind, I've never seen her since, but I know I am from her.
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Incredible story Iconoclast! That is truly amazing! Serious respect to your family brutha!
There are many heart wrenching stories. One particularly made me sad is that of two sisters who also arrived at the same refugee camp where my maternal family was. They were 14-15 years old a that time and migrated with agroup of people. They had a younger brother 5-6 years old. Their group was attacked by sikhs, the men told women and children to run away as they tried to fight them off. The girls grabbed their brother and tried to run but the boy wanted to go back to his male relatives. He started biting them and kicking them and went back to men who were fighting sikhs. The girls along with other women and children left and made it to refugee camp. Few months later when the clashes had died down, a migrating family told them they had seen a boy of that age in that area who alone and crying. They requested my uncle to go and bring him back. The girls became so hopeful that they made a small bed (charpai) for their brother. My uncle went to look for him but found out that all the men including the child of that group were killed.
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Alhumdulillah for Pakistan! This thread really makes us appreciate the piece of land we call home.
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These pictures paint a real story of the partition. *Viewer discretion is advised****
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My grandfather and his family also fled to Pakistan but only my grandfather made it. His parents and sibling were all butchered by hindu and sikh mobs.
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a large number of our family members went missing during their migration journey, never to be heard from again. My grandparents waited all their lives to see if they could hear something about these family members, but neither them nor any of the family that stayed back ever heard anything. There was always this strange hope among my elders that maybe the missing are alive somewhere just because the death was not confirmed.
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When creation of Pakistan was announced, my paternal grand-father's area was attacked by hindus and sikhs, my dad was too young (5-6 years old I think), he has very little memory of that incident. Somehow my dadi along with many other relatives took all 3 of her children and managed to escape (from Delhi) and reached Sukkur.
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it was hindus/sikhs and muslims that killed each other then, it was a very difficult time but it's history now, i wonder when we'll be able to move on since this is stuff from our grandparents time.
do we have to keep remembering such a bloody time over and over again? It just brings about prejudice and hate against a particular religious group b/c of all these memories.
............two countries are independent and separate thankfully...
i wanna so move on from "partition times"
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i think to move on, the nations as a whole have to make peace with history, sweeping it under the rug will not help
there are many people alive who lived through it, and the first generation who have seen their elders have nightmares of their ordeals or pain of their losses.
time heals all wounds, and time eventually will.
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We are over it , Thank you very much !
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well,
my nana were 7 brothers, all of them died. They stabbed my nana too, they thought he died but he was unconscious!
and when he ragained his consciousness he saw them asking ppl if they wanted a drink, and whoever asked they killed them. It was just to make sure that everyone was dead!
so my nana didnt ask. After they left the pakistani police or sumthin came to take all the dead bodies. The officer knew my nana so he took him to the hospital and then to his mother. The mother used to cry out the names of her other 6 sons for the rest of her life!
My nana's family had a lot of land too, so they were able to transfer it to pak. But the pakistani gov would not give the same amount of land because it was so small and only 3 or 4 big "zimidars" would get it. So he only got a small proportion.
Whereas, my dada's father owned about 500 villages in india (as they were nawabs). My great grandfather did not want my dada to go to pakistan. But since my dada did, he did not give him any land, he gave it all to his other son! but after ppl migrated to pak, the indian gov took most of that land!..So basically my dada has to suffer all his life!
So we LOST everything!
and now what bothers me is that "what did we get out of it?"
Its not like we take bribes so we are really well off!
Corruption in pak has ruined everything!
Dont take me wrong, but sometimes i ask my mom why did we migrate. Because we were fine in india too. It was more of the lower class there which was suffering. We did it for pakistan for everyone! and those are the people that ruined it that back-stabbed pakistan!
I love pakistan because that is my home and that is where my family is. But i still think that it was not a good idea!
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my dad was five or six years old during the partition, he remembers migrating from India to Pakistan and people would travel in large groups and live in camps... so my dad, being the mischievous boy he was would sneak into the other people's tents and steal women's hairbrushes and combs. Eventually he got caught redhanded and boy did he get yelled at! :)