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I don’t know about that. What I know is that he is Egyptian, and probably served/serves or studied in Al-Azhar universtiy.
hahahahah
At the end of the post titled "The Type of Jihad in Palestine" on this board is a counter thesis to this fatwa that seems to have valid points. I am no Imam or Muslim, but it seems to caution against this behavior. I saw a father marching in a rally in the territories with his young daughter on his shoulders. She had a fake bomb belt strapped around her waist. This is disturbing and is meant to be by her father. It is sick that it degenerates to this level. Yes, the worst of the Israelis committed atrocities, but they do not need to be mimicked in return. The world is not reminded of the truth of the history of Israel. The low-down tactics of martyrs and terror killings must be stopped. This is not the way to resist or fight. The Israelis use this against the occupied as justification for their brutal retribution. A change of plan is what is needed.
As these fingers type the following
The soul is very scared!
Are these fingers just lined with muscle and nerve and bone not going to speak about what they wrote?
Should the brain not think before allowing these fingers to roam free on the keyboard?
Can I really just make a judgement on a person from one article.
Should I really be disecting the one who wrote the article 'Shaikh Qaradawi'
Am I better than he or worse?
To keep myself safe from the Wrath of Allah should I not think I am worse than you, for if I believe I am better arrogance will overpower me.
How do I know that this person has sacrificed his entire family for the sake of Allah? If he has then can I presume, if he hasn't then can I presume?
We are so suspicious of each other
to continue
a muslim's tongue should not harm another
If i have nothing good to say then should I not keep quiet?
I cry about the ummah yet you are not safe from my critisms? Is there not a CRSIS IN MY THOUGHTS.
The scholars are the saviours of religion yet I think I am better than them simply because I am where I am?
Surely I know that Allah will hold me accountable for every atom's weight of good and recompense me.
Surely I konow that Allah will hold me accountable for every atom's weight of bad and recompense me.
So let us start weighing for ourselves.
Am I really better then you 'Oh Yusuf'?
Or can I from my ignorance make my bed in hell for attacking you and comparing you and ridiculing you.
Surely my hypocrisy is apparent.
Surely this is where I shall begin.
I shall begin with me and from today I will not critise you but look at myself before I look at you.
Yes I realise that was not the topic of the thread but as I continued reading I became so upset at the way we are behaving.
Can we not see that we need to change rather than critise.
And if one point is clear from the whole article, it is this that the money we spend yes we will be accountable for, Marks and Spencers open admit that the profit from its Saturdays earnings goes directly to the Isreali army.
George Galloway has a pressure group called BIG Boycott Isreali Goods.
At least I can be sure that the bullet went through the body of Muhammed ad Duray was not from the pennies I spent in Marks and Spencers. I thought I was helpless but obviously not.
I am not more learned than you, nor am I better but if we stop attacking each other and concentrate on the Sirah of our beloved Prophet peace and blessings of Allah be upon him can we not learn to change this dark time in our history and start making a more positive future for the coming generations regardless of their colour or creed race and religion.
Allah knows best.
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Originally posted by TOMASSO:
*At the end of the post titled "The Type of Jihad in Palestine" on this board is a counter thesis to this fatwa that seems to have valid points. I am no Imam or Muslim, but it seems to caution against this behavior. I saw a father marching in a rally in the territories with his young daughter on his shoulders. She had a fake bomb belt strapped around her waist. This is disturbing and is meant to be by her father. It is sick that it degenerates to this level. Yes, the worst of the Israelis committed atrocities, but they do not need to be mimicked in return. The world is not reminded of the truth of the history of Israel. The low-down tactics of martyrs and terror killings must be stopped. This is not the way to resist or fight. The Israelis use this against the occupied as justification for their brutal retribution. A change of plan is what is needed. *
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THE ONLY PALN OF CHANGE IS TO SEND THE ISLAMIC ARMY IN AND KICK DA BLOODY JEWS OUT OF DA LAND THAT BELONGS TO MUSLIMZ, THERE IS NO OTHER WAY ABOUT IT.....U A MUSLIM SO HOW COME U SAY THAT DYING SHAHEED IS A BAD THING??? r u feelin alrgt??....
.... maybe if it was ur own family who were gettin masscared by the isreali soldiers iam sure u wudnt be sayin these naive thingz... u wud be pickin up da the 1st weapon in sight n tryin resist da jews!
sciencewali....not being rude but what is ur point???
if u tryin 2 say that boycotting products is going to help muslims in palestine then i disagree(and so does islam,..islam says fight them until u turn them out from wher they turned u out from)....
... but if u sayin that scholars 4 dollars r bunch of govt luvers then i agree!
Why boycott Israeli Goods and services?
As a condition for its admission to the United Nations, Israel formally agreed, to accept General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) (1947) (on partition and Jerusalem trusteeship) and General Assembly Resolution 194 (III) (1948) (Palestinian Right of Return). Nevertheless, the government of Israel has expressly repudiated both.
Israel engaged in systematic ethnic cleansing between 1947-1948 resulting in the largest and most persistent refugee crisis remaining. In the past 54 years, Israel has also engaged in continued land confiscation and changing the character of the land and its inhabitants. See Palestine Remembered http://www.palestineremembered.com/ and
Today five million of the 8.5 million Palestinians live as refugees or displaced persons and the others live either under brutal military occupation (West Bank and Gaza) or as fifth class citizens with racist and discriminatory laws against them in all spheres of their lives. Israel’s brutal occupation and massive terror attacks on civilian populations resulted in the death of 1 in every two thousand Palestinians and injury of 1 in every 100 Palestinians just in a7 months after Sept. 2000. See Palestine Monitor http://www.palestinemonitor.org/
Concerned citizens and governments all over the world must organize comprehensive campaigns of economic and academic boycotts, disinvestment, and divestment from Israel along the same lines of what they did to the former criminal apartheid regime in South Africa. The Anti-Apartheid worldwide campaigns played a critical role in dismantling the criminal racist regime in South Africa. For much the same reasons, worldwide campaigns against Israel will play a critical role in dismantling its criminal apartheid regime against the Palestinian People living in occupied Palestine as well as in Israel itself. This will create conditions for coexistance and peace based on justice for all. It is in the interests of all people in that part of the world regardless of their religion or national affiliation.
· Isn’t a boycott likely to hurt Palestinians both within Israel and in the West Bank and Gaza who rely on salaries or who rely on maintaining a decent economy to live?
In South Africa when blacks asked for the boycotts even though some of their jobs were being lost. Both Palestinians and Israelis welcome boycotts because the evil of what the Israeli government is doing is harming many more people that teh harm done from any boycott campaign. For Palestinians with 60% unemployment due to eth Israeli occupation, removing thsi occupation is definetly worth the temporary sacrifice of a few remaining jobs dependent on the Israeli economy. Similar motivation exists for Israeli Jews who see their country sliding further and further into mayhem and racism and who see laws specifically targeted at non-Jews remaining and even strengthened by new laws passed in the Knesset. The all say: occupation and apartheid are killing us all and this must end.
It’s a start. Rather than just talk why not start by actively removing names of companies that invest in isreal.
Selfrigdes stopped stocking isreali products over a certain period due to the negative images that were associated with investing in isreal. If we all started boycotting then imagine the impact. No its not easy but its a start.
Yo like i said i even asked the guy at the yestda meeting abt palestine by george halloyah and one of the palestinian guy who said we shud boycott isreali products admitted himself that boycotting isreali products is NO SOLUTION,so i asked why he was promoting this issue he said its NO SOLUTION, but its just to raise awareness and he said yes I AGREE that its not da can of coke thats killing our bro's n sista its da ISREALI STATE>....and then i asked him what the solution was and he said JIHAD!
so open up ur EYES there is one solution... u can only fight a state with a state not with coke cans!
and btw way south afirca let me jsut point 1 thing....the blacks population was 40 MILLIOn compared to the whites 6 million! and believe me its not easy control a angry 4o million ppl rioting..aganist a tiny minority of 6 million!..and pluz the boycotts never really exuisted it emerged later that the west were secretly dealing with south afirca
STOP DAY DREAMING AND WAKE UP YO!
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at last i assume u woken up da reality!
Thanks Ahmad
I don't dispute that it is not in itself a solution, may I add I said that we should be doing something.
If the money that I spend on a product made by Isreal is better spent in the way of charity for the Oppressed people then surely it is better.
Allah does not change the situation of a people until they change it themselves.
Instead of supporting muslim business we put our money elsewhere.
We should support each other economically.
question
If you had an option of shop A and shop B to spend your money in and you knew that shop A sent its profits to an oppressive regime and shop B didn't where would you spend your money.
Also are we not accountable for the money we spend. Do jihad with your wealth.
I in no way at any point stated that it was the solution, that is your point not mine, I said we should make a start somewhere rather than just cuss 'scholars' and talk. That was the point.
It is a simply point.
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Originally posted by sciencewali:
**I don't dispute that it is not in itself a solution, may I add I said that we should be doing something.
If the money that I spend on a product made by Isreal is better spent in the way of charity for the Oppressed people then surely it is better.
Allah does not change the situation of a people until they change it themselves.
Instead of supporting muslim business we put our money elsewhere.
We should support each other economically.
question
If you had an option of shop A and shop B to spend your money in and you knew that shop A sent its profits to an oppressive regime and shop B didn't where would you spend your money.
Also are we not accountable for the money we spend. Do jihad with your wealth.
I in no way at any point stated that it was the solution, that is your point not mine, I said we should make a start somewhere rather than just cuss 'scholars' and talk. That was the point.
It is a simply point.**
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Look as muslims we do actionz based on a intention and also seek an objective....so its no use doing actions wch acheive no obejective...i.e like a said boycottying does not achieve anything so what da point if it aint going to achieve anything?
i know ur intention r good wanting to help da muslims of palestine but u gotta look at wat islam sayz not sum govt scholar! n islam says to repell kuffar occuyping muslim land u fight them...
...but at this moment the muslim armies r sittin idle so we have to work n make them move n kick da jews out of palestine>
Im_bak - HOW?
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Originally posted by mushi:
Im_bak - HOW?
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Salaam alikum bro and sisters, the question is not hard to answer ppl, there are number of things to consider, 1st is that an individaul alone cannot take up this huge task on their alone,rather they need to be workin with a politcal islamic party who know what is going in the world, what the plans of the kuffar are, what are the best styles n means of apparaching ppl of power, etc...this must be an politcal group that has a a methodology to establish KHILAFAH based on ijithad..
next point is that contary to myths, the generals,majors,brigrades, ppl of influnce r human like us and dont live in a jungles or underground caves rather they live in society, they intract with other ppl, they do shopping, go to takeaways,resturants,etc and it can be very easy to get a message/point to them, weather through handing out leaflets, or sending ppl from the group to talk to them or by public opinion or there friends telling them or their daughters saying to them u would protect me from the jews, so why dont u protect our bros n sisters in palestine!....
muslims its not easy but its possible, it is 100% certainity becasue Allah(swt) has promised the victory to those who work for this mighty obilgation.
..so what can the muslims in the west do? there r many things, here is just 1 task... many muslims living in the west know or have relatives from islamic world who are ppl of power, so we can discuss with them and remind them of ISLAM and the obilgation of establishing KHILAFAH,....
imagine muslims in the west, the heart of kuffar tellin muslimz in the muslim world to unite the muslims land,establish the Islamic state,liberate palestine etc, believe me this would have a IMPACT to ppl in the muslim world, they think that muslims in the west just think abt galz,drink etc so when the message comes from the west its bound to have a bigger impact...
weather we r muslims in the muslim land or in the kuffar land we have different responsiblities ... its still the missing piece of the jigsaw...INSHALLAH the victory is not too far away
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