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Islamiabad…if you think they burry their daughters…then where did those daughter come from? Do you even get it? Remember daughters don’t come out of a Man’s ass, they come out of a woman’s vigina…if there were no women, how come there were daughters? Please explain from your Quranic sources before you make an ass out of yourself.
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Ofcourse some survived out of mercy. But yes daughters were thought to be a humiliation. Many were buried alive. There was slave trade and where women are commodities it is not strange that there are many available even though babies were buried.
The incidents of killing of daughters is in the Quran. .... "wa iza suela mauidatun biayyi zanbin qutilat"
Islama...it is all non-scientific. the Arab world has a perfect male-female ratio of any sub-continent going back 4000 years. Read some protohistoric stuff and put a nice cover on your Quran and keep it up on the top-shelf where it belongs. It's not a book of history.
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Islama...it is all non-scientific. the Arab world has a perfect male-female ratio of any sub-continent going back 4000 years. Read some protohistoric stuff and put a nice cover on your Quran and keep it up on the top-shelf where it belongs. It's not a book of history.
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Science can be wrong.... Quran cannot be! Quran is perfect. it is science which is imperfect.
Islamabad -- Thank you again. I found some very useful verses and Hadith. I think they will help them understand what Islam is all about.
(They are high school kids.)
There are a few places where I think you state as fact what I think is up for debate. If you want to revise it, let me know and I will be more specific.
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^ yeah, try telling that to smart kids. You will get far. very far.
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What to talk of small kids, here big kids like you need to clean their hearts and be unbiased and look for reality. Here is something for you as a start: www.harunyahya.com
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^ Yes. I think people try to understand every day. But we cannot assume that we know the complete truth.
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are we talking about the complete truth here? there are some parts of the quran that are mutashabihaat. we just leave them as they are as only Allah knows. In fact, there is hardly any confusion, quran is quite clear.
Islamabad -- What makes you think I don't want the slides??? I found them really helpful. I'm sorry that wasn't clear. Just offering constructive criticism.
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Islamabad -- What makes you think I don't want the slides??? I found them really helpful. I'm sorry that wasn't clear. Just offering constructive criticism.
As I said, I will probably use a lot of it.
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You are most welcome sister.
Regarding what is not clear....many things become unclear when kuffar jump into discussions between muslims.
are we talking about the complete truth here? there are some parts of the quran that are mutashabihaat. we just leave them as they are as only Allah knows. In fact, there is hardly any confusion, quran is quite clear.
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I don't have such faith in human understanding. I think it is all there for us to discover (except those passages you reference) but that doesn't mean we have yet understood it completely.
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**Islama...it is all non-scientific. the Arab world has a perfect male-female ratio of any sub-continent going back 4000 years.* Read some protohistoric stuff and put a nice cover on your Quran and keep it up on the top-shelf where it belongs. It's not a book of history.
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^ Your college library or nearest B & N. Considering you know what Library means. If you don’t know about published research, then you are not too swift.
but u should look at the hadith and ayahs collection that are chosen by other foreign boards the like UK University of Cambridge GCE Ordinary Level Islamiat paper syllabus...
go on the net and search for it or PM me if u need any info...in case i forget to check this thread again...
I have some experience explaining to non Muslims about Islam and some of the the things I used to touch upon are below.
From my experience I found the American to be the most ignorant yet very open and curious and at times I had to explain the terms Islam and Muslim
“Islam is to Christianity what Muslim is to Christian”.
Islam to be the oldest religion in terms of message and the youngest among the 3 monolithic religions i.e. Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
I used to focus on how Muslims believe in the following just as the Jews and the Christians because from my experience I found out that a lot of them had no idea and in fact some even wondered if we believe in God or not.
Belief is Allaha
Angels
Revealed Scriptures /Books
Muslims believe in the four revealed scriptures.
Prophets
Day of Judgment
Destiny
Belief is Allaha
Focusing and emphasizing on using Allaha, explaining how Allaha is an Arabic world with comprising of “Al” and “illah”. “Al” meaning the and “illah” meaning worthy of worship. Pointing how the Arabic word is unique in itself that unlike the word God is does not have plurals or gender. Thus emphasizing the concept of tauheed and how it is central to Islam
Angels
Angels being a creation of Allaha with out the power of choice and they only do what they are commanded. Thus unlike in Christianity we do not have bad angles
Prophets
Muslims believe in the prophets as humans but chosen to perform the task of propagating and convey the message to the people. Around 25 prophets are mentioned in the Quran by name from Adam Mosses, Jacob, Joseph, Jesus …. And the Final Mohammed (PBUH)
Islam’s prespective on Prophet Jesus
Hijab, Women, Five Pillars, Haj were some of the other topics...