Just been completed successfully, and six months ahead of schedule I hear? Has anyone got any good articles and links on this, another great developmental achievment of the Musharraf-led government of Pakistan.
Re: Pindi-Bhattian-Faisalabad motorway
oh well? and how is this an achievement of musharraf?
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Just been completed successfully, and six months ahead of schedule I hear? Has anyone got any good articles and links on this, another great developmental achievment of the Musharraf-led government of Pakistan.
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Re: Re: Pindi-Bhattian-Faisalabad motorway
Excuse me, I meant the entire Musharraf (and Jamali) administration over the last four years.
Unlike the cowardly foreign-based former PM’s of Pakistan they have managed to complete a major development project well ahead of schedule, instead of repeated and costly delays of previous years caused by political jealousies and feuding.
I hear Gwadur and the Makran highway, are also going to be completed ahead of schedule, and the major development projects in Karachi and elsewhere are moving full speed ahead. Ode to Musharraf and co. :k:
for God's sake...the previous regime of Nawaz Sharif tried to improve the infrastructure of the country...roads in Lahore were improved, what I see now is that the present regime is trying to bring Lahore to square one...the roads have been dug on various points...one near my house, for the past 3-4 months the road is dug, at two points for the sewerage...i dont know, when the work will end, but one thing i know, that the roads dug wont be repaired...anyways, the performance of the present government especially the provincial one is truely pathetic...
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for God's sake...the previous regime of Nawaz Sharif tried to improve the infrastructure of the country...roads in Lahore were improved
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Yes, I thought it would not be long before you came to the praise of the buzdil and looter from Lahore. :) But you forgot to tell us how it took the best part of a decade and numerous governments before that one single motorway could be completed.
Contrast that with the last four years, and you see one major development project after another be it in Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan and elsewhere being completed ahead of schedule. The political feuds and jealousies of the 1990's halted construction time and time again on any major development project, while politician after politican promised us great development to come. But is just four short years unprecedented development projects have not only be promised by the Musharraf administration but actually delivered, and in record time - ahead of schedule. Not just the Faislabad motorway, but Gwadur port, Makran Highway, the upgrading of the Indus highway and the list goes on. You should try and go to Karachi, and see how the roads are being developed at unprecedented rate, to make up for all the years of under development that we had in the previous decade or so.
I went to Faisalabad last year, and I witnessed the construction of this patch, going on really fast, and I am glad they have completed it.
Before the motorway, Rawalpindi to Faisalabad used to take us 8 to 9 hours and the road was extremely bumpy (used to finish the shocks of the car) and last year (on the motorway) it took us 3 and a half hours, and I wonder with this PindiBhattian patch reaady, will we be down to 3 hours now? Thats amazing!!! Even though this whole motorway project has been one disaster after another, those of us travelling to Faisalabad occasionally from pindi/islamabad have benefitted alot. Credit goes to both the Ganja Dynasty for coming up with this project, and the present regime to finally go ahead and complete some part of it.
Excellent news :k:
Why are Pakistanis the first to point out the problems but last to commend a job well done. Regardless of what government accomplished the task, commerce and travel will improve for people like you and me ![]()
I support President Musharraf!
Zaavia, NS was so damn Lahore centric that he let my part of Punjab go to hell..I hear from my cousins that Industry there is up and infustructure is improving as is commerce. We need leaders that will develop the entire nation not just their corner of Central Punjab.
What's the status quo of Multan-Faisalabad Mway..isn't that one next ..?
RF, Sharif’s werent Lahore centric…most of the projects including the Islamabad, Lahore Motorway, the Faisalabad Motorway, the improvement of roads of Lahore, Faisalabad, Rawalpindi, Sialkot and Multan started during his time…anyways, Nawaz Sharif was an idiot agreed, but Shabaz Sharif was a much better administrator…I have seen Shahbaz Sharif’s rule, and now Ch Pervaiz’s rule, I am sorry to say Pervaiz doesnt even come close…during Shahbaz Sharif’s government, he tried to improve the governance, infrastructure of the province, and a PITB (Punjab IT Board) was setup, MOU’s were signed with Oracle etc…I wonder what happened with all those projects now…
yaar, tell me which industry has come to your part of the world let alone the rest of Pakistan?
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RF, Sharif’s werent Lahore centric…most of the projects including the Islamabad, Lahore Motorway, the Faisalabad Motorway, the improvement of roads of Lahore, Faisalabad, Rawalpindi, Sialkot and Multan started during his time…**
yara, your right, NS wasn’t ONLY Lahore centric but also Lahori-Kashmiri centric. The development in Lahore pales in comparison with Northern Punjabi cities like Rawalpindi or Islamabad. True he was involved in the motorway projects but just like you wanted to snatch away President Musharrafs role in this current motorway, lets not forget BBs role in planning and setup of the project. A little reading for you (please do read the entire article):
Once again, the destiny of the country is being decided by the occupants of Takht Lahore. Appointments are not being made but being doled away on the basis of considerations other than merit. The priority is clear. First preference is being given to Kashmiris, then come those hailing from the Prime minister’s hometown of Lahore and lastly those holding Punjab domiciles. But while the impression may be created of undeserving individuals being favoured on the basis of their Punjabi background, the fact is that these people too are being accommodated only because of their links with the Lahore Power-Mafia close to the Prime minister. And since it is natural for the Lahore Mafia to be more accessible to the Punjabi sycophants and opportunists, hence their overbearing presence in the ranks of the blessed. Background interviews with close aides of the Prime minister and his family members clearly show that the only criterion being adopted by the Prime minister is the personal-loyalty factor. As long as a person is
perceived to be ferociously loyal to the Prime minister and one who would not hesitate in doing the PM’s bidding (rules be damned), he’s in. And there are quite a few examples to substantiate this claim.
It is because of this criterion that hordes of people have been dug out of
retirement and put in offices of great profit. For a retired person to be
brought back into the power corridors is like being born again and hence
their unquestioned loyalty to their benefactor. Similarly, people have been,
and are being posted on every important post on the basis of the preference
formula cited earlier: Kashmiri-Lahori-Punjabi (in order or priority).
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The problem is that the rest of Pakistan sees this as some sort of Punjabi conspiracy when the fact remains that Nawaz Sharif, Zia Ul Haq both the “alleged” Punjabis were either Kashmiri or Arain from Indian Punjab. Theres a perception of Punjabi dominance in power but I ask the bashers, when was the last Punjabi Rajput, Jatt, Gujjar a PM or President? It is amazing that there has vever been a PM from the actual Pakistani Punjab that has exerted any influence in Pakistani history. I don’t play ethnic politics but reality is there.
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anyways, Nawaz Sharif was an idiot agreed, but Shabaz Sharif was a much better administrator…I have seen Shahbaz Sharif’s rule, and now Ch Pervaiz’s rule, I am sorry to say Pervaiz doesnt even come close…during Shahbaz Sharif’s government, he tried to improve the governance, infrastructure of the province, and a PITB (Punjab IT Board) was setup, MOU’s were signed with Oracle etc…I wonder what happened with all those projects now…**
I don’t think Ch. Pervaiz is a good person much less an administrator. Maybe your not familiar with the Sharif family, but my family is..a part of their clan is based in the US and the mentality of “us” first is the hallmark of the family. I am not going to lie and say that my family benefitted by gottind the good seats at concerts, the vip areas in gov’t functions (espicially during the NS govt), expedited approvals for visas but wrong is wrong.. I mean just because you know someone, doesnt mean nepotism is justified. I am telling you on a personal level, I know the extended family considers themselves the cream of the crop as Kashmiris yet break out in Punjabi to incorporate others. This is a family trait, and it was on full display during NS campaigning with a Punjabicentric message…he made fools out of us all.
I like Musharraf..the man works above these petty ethnic politics. So far he has rightfully given extra consideration to Baluchistan which was well past due and done a good job in keeping the ethnic BS out of the equation.
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I like Musharraf..the man works above these petty ethnic politics. So far he has rightfully given extra consideration to Baluchistan which was well past due and done a good job in keeping the ethnic BS out of the equation.
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At the moment, if you follow Musharraf closely, it seems that even he has become Punjab centric, hence his statements on Kalabagh Dam, and the Thal Canal, although it could spiral a dangerous situation in the remaining three provinces if the projects do go ahead...
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At the moment, if you follow Musharraf closely, it seems that even he has become Punjab centric, hence his statements on Kalabagh Dam, and the Thal Canal, although it could spiral a dangerous situation in the remaining three provinces if the projects do go ahead...
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You've hit the nail on the head!
Construction of the M4 motorway (Faislabad-Multan) will start soon according to a public announcement by Musharraf a few days ago…
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Faisalabad-Multan Motorway project soon: Musharraf **](http://www.dawn.com/2003/10/03/nat10.htm)
On the subject of the M3 Motorway (Pindi Bhattian-Faisalabad) it truly is amazing how this motorway was completed in such a short period of time, and well ahead of schedule. Federal Minister for Communication Ahmed Ali highlighted the achievements of the NHA. He said the construction of the M-3 had been completed in 18 months instead of stipulated 24 months.](http://www.jang-group.com/thenews/oct2003-daily/03-10-2003/national/n1.htm)
It bodes well for Pakistan that major development projects be it the Pindi Bhattian-Faisalabad Motorway or Gwadur Port etc are being completed ahead of schedule, without any interuption because of political jealousies, feuds kick backs to boot.
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Malik, what about the status of M1 (Peshawer-Islamabad) Motorway, where construction had begun much before M3, or M4?
Its simple, the Islamabad - Lahore motorway opened during the times of Nawaz Sharif, and we should give him credit for that, and that was the time Faislabad seemed a whole lot closer to Islamabad. They had also built a temporary link road from Pindi Bhattian to Faislabad at that time, which was actually very good too. This present pindi bhattian faisalabad is just a very small patch, we cannot be jumping out of our pants and be overjoyed, it still took the musharraf regime more than enough time to finish this small patch, but in the end they finished it off real quick. Lets hope the other motorway projects are completed in the future.
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RF, Sharif's werent Lahore centric...most of the projects including the Islamabad, Lahore Motorway, the Faisalabad Motorway, the improvement of roads of Lahore, Faisalabad, Rawalpindi, Sialkot and Multan started during his time...
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They were extremely lahore centric. Sialkot projects werent started by the Sharifs. As a matter of fact, the sharifs were the ones to put blockades to all Sialkot projects. All Sialkot projects (roadways, airport etc) were started by the Sialkot Chamber of commerce, with their own money, after years of frustration at the governments.
well thats a good thing, if sialkot chamber of commerce took part in sialkot's rebuilding...i went to sialkot 7-8 years back, and was appalled to see its condition, considering that its a very big contributor to pakistan's exchequer...basically i belong to Narowal, which used to be in Sialkot District...we go to Narowal twice (EIDs) every year, the road is so bad, that one feels that he is travelling on the moon...remember Narowal is only 110 kms away from Lahore...
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They were extremely lahore centric.
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Exactly. From the composition of his government of looters to the development funds, everything was about building is fiefdom in Raiwind and Lahore.
But Musharraf and the successor government have pursued Pakistan-centric policies especially in the development field, with Gwadur Port, Makran Coastal Highway, the Lyari Bypass, Northern bypasss (M-10), the Pindi Bhattian-Faisalabad motorway (M-3) and the upgrading of the Indus Highway and Pakistan Raliways testimony to some of the many developmental achievments of the last four years.
We need this level of national and infrastructural development to continue till at least 2010 without any delays due to political jealousies etc, for us make up for all the under development of the last couple of decades.
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They were extremely lahore centric. Sialkot projects werent started by the Sharifs. As a matter of fact, the sharifs were the ones to put blockades to all Sialkot projects. All Sialkot projects (roadways, airport etc) were started by the Sialkot Chamber of commerce, with their own money, after years of frustration at the governments.
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Thats not really true. Who was the man behind the Chamber in Sialkot? It was Sheikh Ijaz Ahmed (former MP of PML(N)). All my relatives in Sialkot are in the sporting business, and all of them are still die-hard supporters of the PML(N) as they say it helped them boast their business. This business, unlike other businesses in Pakistan is not going down.