Yes, but following the law of the land which you are in is also compulsory, plus the principle of necessity in taking photographs such as for medical studies is a separate category (i.e. doing something due to necessity/compulsion, and doing it out of want are different things)
This is why those pictures are considered allowed. Because having law and order in the land is of higher priority. And pictures on licenses is one way of assuring that.
Now your second point, this is different because its a 'live' capturing of an event. Let me elaborate. A person could be giving a lecture anywhere in the world, but since i can not be there I would see it on video. Here the purpose of the video is to bring that event to me. Also when you make a video, 'images' are not produced on paper like in a photograph, but images are produced, displayed on the screen, and THEN THESE IMAGES DISAPPEAR after whatever I was watching is over. There is a vast difference :)
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You know what Ammar, this is not just a law of the Non-Muslim land but all the countries including Saudi arab. It's just impossible to not use pictures. Why are there such hadiths are impossible to be followed 'completely'? Well, don't answer me coz I know you don't have an answer for this either. Anyways, I don't understand why but it is hard or impossible to make sense out of some hadiths......God knows best!
this isn't rocket science, I am not sure what you dont understand. Do you know that a woman in islam is allowed to kill her attacker if he tries to make a move on her, and there will be no blame on her. To you this might seem like an 'open ticket' to kill people, but infact it is protecting an even bigger sin such as rape.
Pictures are the same. Pictures are definitely not allowed as the Prophet showed definite dislike for them. But in case of security they are protecting from an even bigger evil, which is disarray in the land.
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...when you make a video, 'images' are not produced on paper like in a photograph, but images are produced, displayed on the screen, and THEN THESE IMAGES DISAPPEAR after whatever I was watching is over. There is a vast difference
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Would digital photos viewed on a computer screen represent
a) Pictures are definitely not allowed, or
b) Allowed because images are produced, displayed on the screen, and THEN THESE IMAGES DISAPPEAR
what? picxture haram? not corect. may be Mohamad tell wife take pilloow becase animal on = not haram, may be he no liking cat! how you know that meaning haram? then why Alla make picxture?
jazakullah everyone for ur feedbacks.......however, what comes to my mind is that we arent creating pictures/images but infact taking them. How then are we matching the creation of allah? images are haram period but todays world is engulfed in these images, infact theres a mango infront of me with a sticker of the distributors logo on it, a smiling banana.......in other words..its so hard to not have these images in the house! Let Allah help and guide us all ameen.
I want to know what I’m doing wrong if I take my pictures to send to my close relatives like mamoo, chacha, phupu, grandparents, etc who live far from here and can’t meet me when they want to see me? What am I doing wrong if I take my best friend’s pictures on her graduation knowing it’s a special day and will never come back again? What am I doing wrong when I pictures of my sister on her wedding only to remember it? What is wrong when I take pictures of my friends at a party/get-together knowing that we might never meet again. Why will God still punish me if my intentions are not bad/ I’m not gonna hang those pics on the wall or worship them or associate someone with Him? Why are actions seem to be considered more important than intentions in some hadiths?
I do understand your point. I will leave you with a little bit to think about, and then you can see decide what you think. Believe it or not I struggled with this concept for quite some time before I managed to convince myself of it. To give you a (sort of) personal example, I have lived away from my family for quite some time, and during this period, my family has asked for my pictures quite a few times. I've had to say no, and each time it has been harder than before. Finally, they came to terms with it and now they themselves have understood and started following this. So when I say that I dont consider images to be allowed (as per my limited understanding), its not something I like for myself either.
There is nothing wrong with your intentions. But do think about this. Do you think the Prophet, sallalahu aleyhe wasalam, actually wanted to worship the pictures on his curtain (naudubillah)? What do you think were the Prophet's intentions when he asked for those pictures to be removed? Pictures on curtains just give a fresh glow to the room dont they? Phir should he have let those pictures stay? Thats all I want to know right now i.e. what you think were the Prohpet's intentions, or Aisha (ra)'s intentions for that matter, in the above mentioned scenario.
I could write more, but lets get this out of the way first.
If there were a painting of Hadhrat Muhammad (PBUH), I can bet, a vast majority of Muslims would be doing 'Sajda' to that Painting, as is being done by Christians of the age to Jesus Christ.
So, if the purpose of an image/painting/material is to do worship, then yes, that has to go and you cannot have that. But if a picture is just for remembrance or information, there is nothing wrong with it.
Hadhrat Muhammad(PBUH) pured Ka'ba from all paintings/idols because, first of all, in those paintings/idols there was nudity and secondly they were used for worshipping. And Ka'ba, the house of ONE God has to be purified from all that rubbish. But this doesn't mean, you can't take picture of yourself.
If you still follow your self-imposed hardships, then stop watching tv/movies because those are 'moving images/pictures' and close a very useful door of information/knowledge onto yourself.
What do you think of the other mentioned examples?
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If you still follow your self-imposed hardships, then stop watching tv/movies because those are 'moving images/pictures' and close a very useful door of information/knowledge onto yourself.
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hmm.. the useful door of information and knowledge???? TV and MOVIES?? I mean.. seriously. who are you kidding?
Am i seeing constant images + semi nudity as soon as I open my browser? Really please dont make such a ridiculous comparison.
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All I am saying is, there is nothing wrong with pictures if they are not used for worship. What about pictures of stars/sun/earth which scientists use to dig out hidden secrets of nature. What about pictures of human body/organs/xrays and what not. These all are used to diagnose symptoms of diseases to cure a person. Would you call all these images/pictures to be haram too?
All I am saying is, there is nothing wrong with pictures if they are not used for worship. What about pictures of stars/sun/earth which scientists use to dig out hidden secrets of nature. What about pictures of human body/organs/xrays and what not. These all are used to diagnose symptoms of diseases to cure a person. Would you call all these images/pictures to be haram too?
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Nope. I have stated above that things are dealt according to priority. For example, the Prophet asked for the pictures to be removed off his curtains, but he never told Aisha (ra) to stop playing with dolls. I mentioned above that pictures for medical purposes etc are a must since they help in protecting human life. Pictures of stars/sun/earth are not living objects hence there isn't a problem there.
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Seminole I will get back to you on that.
But regardless of that, they are images, and not a video or a constantly changing image. An image is one which is still, i'm sure you realize that.
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What about digital images that are used as a screen saver which alternate pictures of family members? Some of them may be of deceased grandparents whose memory one wants to cherish. Others could be of family members who live thousands of miles away and this offers a chance to see them and incorparate them into one's daily life. Others are of group gatherings where loved ones are celebrating in the spirit of God. If I were to revert, would God forbid me from viewing these images? What if they were still photos taped to the refrigerator that served the same purpose? Why would God forbid someone from looking at the faces of the people he loves? Is He that petty and jealous? Where do you draw the line as to which photos/logos/monikers/film/images/ paintings/web pages/reflections/ holograms/patterns are permissable?
If God says that we should worship Him and Him alone, does that also seem petty and jealous to you? I mean it would not hurt Him in any way if we worship other god(s).
PI,
As I stated before this is only my understanding. One can choose to make their own decisions. Oh and btw, stop making stupid comments regarding molvis. I bet if I paid you 10 k you'd be licking my boots for the rest of your life (hey, just returning the favor. if you can make dumbass comments, so can others)
As I stated before this is only my understanding. One can choose to make their own decisions. Oh and btw, stop making stupid comments regarding molvis. I bet if I paid you 10 k you'd be licking my boots for the rest of your life (hey, just returning the favor. if you can make dumbass comments, so can others)
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Is that Rs. 10k or $10k?
In either case, those notes have PICTURES of humans on them! They are haraam! If you worship one God you should give them to me anyway!
