Re: Philosophy
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May be, there is a group of people who beleives in a pink flying unicorn then how it has not some applications in real life - real life taken here as social life.
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I can see what you’re trying to get at. However the argument is still illogical I am saying it should not be debated not that it doesn’t exist. As I belief a pink flying unicorn doesn’t do any good for anyone. There is no propose for it, if today you believed that flying unicorns existed you’d be labelled crazy. And why is that? Because it’s illogical in other words one is mentally incapable of perceiving reality and is disillusioned. Now I emphasise the point of disillusioned, for the reason that when one he is disillusioned he will precise his illusion as a reality. However, that still doesn’t make it reality! The point here I am trying to is that, no mater how much you believe in something it will not materialise into reality. We make a big distinction between illusion are reality. Reality is universal, and illusion is not, as two people will not have the same illusion.
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Further, if it has really some applications in real life, then its not futile to debate on it, is it? By the way, you must have certainely beleived in HUMAN RIGHTS from your early childhood, try to prove them logically.
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Yes, however human rights can’t fall into the same category there has to be a need for them. Say for instance, there was a hot piece of metal and you burn your hand on it, then you think (philosophise) of how to make that say and you put a warning next to the metal – that has real application a pink flying unicorn is not going to help me in real life in my safety of advancement. And anyone who believes it does is disillusioned and should be locked up. And the same concept applies to human rights. Someone saw (reality) of humans being abused and then philosophised about a theory on how to protect them and out of that came the constitution of human rights – something that has real application.
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In fact, in the entire history of western philosophy, no one has been able to prove what we call Human Rights
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That is beyond the point, the same argument could apply to the pink flying unicorn, and however we know human rights have an application in real life to protect humans. It physically protects humans, its much more powerful then an illusionary pink flying unicorn.
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Most of the contemporary defenders of this concept, Richard Rorty being the one among them, only say this: Guys, we beleive in it, so we do, and so should you beleive in them. How would we say that the concept of Human Rights is logically more viable than the concepts of unicorns and witches.
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I’ve alluded to this earlier. Human rights is logically more viable because it protects humans the abuse of human is a reality you can’t debate reality put a pink flying unicorn is imaginary. Illusion is not reality no matter how much you believe in it.
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The only argument you can give me for it would be "they have applications in real life." But there are societies where at least witches still have some application in real life
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You make a very good and valid point here. However, we know believing in any of this is not a necessity. We don’t all need to believe this crap to function, not believing in it not going to hurt anyone, unlike other issues which have real application in life such as human rights, human rights is a necessity. Wich societies are not.
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Give me some arguments from your crap Logical Postivism, or go to Wittgenstein as a first step in your real philosophical development.
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What can be a better argument then reality? How can you even debate reality that is the ilogicality of this really daft philosophy of believing any crap you want to believe regardless of what application it has. Am not a Student of philosophy I am more science oriented am just giving my opinion. I say, you illusion is what ever you want it to be, reality is not!
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USA flag has fiftY WHITE stars ......while the EU has fifEEN GOLDEN stars
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Sorry my mistake. When you said starts I just thought you’re probably from America. Am not too big on the whole EU thing. Europe is turning to America.
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BUT it is very possible to LOGICALLY demonstrate than human rights are not more true, or natural than any other theory
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I’ve just proved otherwise dear. Human rights are not a theory anymore they are a reality they are formed into the constitution and have real application of protection humans in my nations.
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personaly i think human rights are based on the christian moral that emphasize equity among people, and kindness and charity towards the poor, ill and weak people.
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Islam says the same thing; I don’t see a problem with piousness and forbidding evil.