NBC Severs Ties With Journalist Arnett
Also heard that Fox’s clown Geraldo Rivera is being escorted out of Iraq. He apparently showd on TV the map where he was in-bedded with the troops.
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Trust me I wont give her the schematics but the missile itself :D
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But?
What if she just wiggles the schematics out of you?
Britain’s Mirror Hires Fired Veteran Arnett
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And he is back in business … :rotfl"
LONDON (Reuters) - Britain’s Daily Mirror said on Tuesday it had hired veteran U.S reporter Peter Arnett, sacked by American TV network NBC after he told Iraqi television the U.S, war plan against Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) had failed.
** “I report the truth of what is happening in Baghdad and will not apologize for it,” he told the tabloid newspaper, one of the most prominent opponents of Britain’s involvement in the war.
Arnett, 68, who as a CNN reporter in 1991 was one of the few western journalists reporting from Baghdad during the previous Gulf War (news - web sites), said in an interview on Sunday with state-owned Iraqi TV that the U.S. military would need to rewrite its war plan. **
“I am still in shock and awe at being fired,” New Zealand-born Arnett – who won a Pulitzer prize for his Vietnam War coverage – wrote under the banner headline “This war’s NOT working.”
:hehe: What a beauty. Now we have an American dissident reporting for one of the top class UK papers. :k:
He's not even American. He was born in New Zealand.
Question from Janice: We in the U.S. are horrified to hear stories of Saddam hiding his military assets among civilians, but I have read that Saddam has made Iraqi citizens part of the military by arming them. Are they really ready and willing to die for Saddam? People I talk to have a very cocky attitude about Iraqi forces surrendering to CNN cameras again, but as they say, Pride Goeth Before the Fall so I am concerned that the US is not taking the Iraqi people seriously.
Peter Arnett: I love it. I love people who think that war should be fought out in the open and there’s a chivalry about war and how we do it. The U.S. uses B52’s that bomb from 60,000 feet, ok? They’re pretty hard to hit from the ground. So the fact that Saddam puts his tanks among the population, what’s the difference? The U.S. uses cruise missiles that are fired from warships 500 miles away, so you can’t fire back at them. So to suggest that somehow there are rules in war and you shouldn’t fight wars near civilians, c’mon! Baghdad was hit with all kinds of bombs, a civilian air raid shelter killed 380 people, civilians died. If you’re going to have rules let both sides observe them. If Saddam happens to want to fight in the cities, this is a standard aspect of warfare.
Too bad he didn’t say anything like cursing the Iraqis or the Muslims or call the Iraqis terrorists for trying to defend their country from an invasion or calling the US and British soldiers heroes and knights…If he had then I am sure the mod-Muslims would have lapped it up like manna…And THAT they would have considered free journalism and the truth…Talk about confused…
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I did, but it still not an answer the question I posed in my last post. Do you think that every foreign reporter who makes any critical comment of the illegal American war after attending an Iraqi government briefing is committing treachery?
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Malik, do you mind if I try to answer this? I think I understand what he means.
Basically, no, it's not wrong for a reporter to make critical comment on how the war's going, if he's doing an analysis, which NBC first claimed that he was. But they decided to fire him because a) he was hired to report to them, not to do analysis of the war for the Iraqi government! You can see how this is a conflict of interests, right? Journalists have a hawk-eye view of what's going on. And to offer that knowledge to the Iraqi government is to aid their cause: read his comments, he was explaining to them the buttons they shoudl press (anti-war support is growing, that may discourage the war campaign) and giving them insight into the American military's current mindframe and politics (leaders are divided, their war plan is being scrapped). By sharing these "insights" (whether or not they were right. what's important is that he believed they were), as an American citizen, he is indeed verging on treason.
Look at it another way. This war isn't going to stop until the US wins. I think most people realize that. And an important aspect to war is demoralizing the enemy. Convincing them to lay down their guns. So, more disturbingly to my mind, Arnett's comments undermined the US attempts to demoralize the Iraqis, caused doubt in some Iraqis minds that the US victory was imminent -- and by doing so, possibly, probably, dragged out the war. All that does is assure that more civilians will be killed and maimed. For that reason alone, I think Arnett is an idiot.
Additionally, he's a journalist. Taht's all. He shoudl report the news, not create it, and he should report it to the people who HIRED him. He really screwed up, in many ways.
He's been sacked/fired.
Way to go democracy!
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He's been sacked/fired.
Way to go democracy!
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Private companies can do such things. He was hired by the Mirror.
I believe Peter Arnett told the truth. Now before some of you bent out of shape and others let me explain. Other journalists have pretty much said the same thing right here in US. One of them Fred Kaplan, chief editor of Slate.com. He was being interviewed on CNN and said the same thing. I will paraphrase now;
US Iraq war plan has failed because they planned this war for days, not weeks or months. This is the prime reason they ran out/were running short of the supplies. He admitted that he has not seen the actual war plan, however, after looking at the war doctrines and war games (which by the way US had been doing for the last 2 years) he was quite certain that war was not going to according to the plan.
Now about Peter Arnett, did he commit treason? Yes he did. you do not go to the enemy and admit that your country's war plan has failed and US is only says that it wants to help the Iraqi people because of the world pressure. If you look at it from a patriotic point view, you will agree that he commit treason.
Kaleem
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Private companies can do such things. He was hired by the Mirror.
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He is not the only thorn in their eyes. Video of Madonna was next on the menu.
Now some one should say Iraqi ppl have no rights and there is no freedom of speech in Iraq!
They came to free the land and are now oppressing their own ppl!
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Front Page of todays Mirror.
Peter Arnett has failed as a journalist. The war plan is doing just fine. US army is sitting outside of Baghdad in less then a week.
Peter Arnett is a true journalist in every sense of the word. He is much respected by millions and is one of the few journalists who has spoken up against the war. Its great that the largest UK daily has now hired him. :k:
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To the point and factual as usual. It's papers like the Mirror which expose the real truth that others dare not tell.
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Peter Arnett has failed as a journalist. The war plan is doing just fine. US army is sitting outside of Baghdad in less then a week.
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Where are you getting Imdad from ????? ;) ;) ;)
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Where are you getting Imdad from ????? ;) ;) ;)
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Unlike you, from nowhere.
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Peter Arnett has failed as a journalist. The war plan is doing just fine. US army is sitting outside of Baghdad in less then a week.
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Then you are the one of the very very few who think so.
Kinda strange when even Americans are quite sceptic about this.
Don't worry about Imdad.
He's Bush's 'chumcha' through and through.
I've yet to come across a sell out like him.
Having said that, he's most probably one of those redneck hillbillies, using an Asian nick pretending to be someone he's not.
Every government of every country attempts to be economical with the truth.
Peter Arnett: Under Fire, BBC, Chris Jones, 4 April 2003
…] Months before the current hostilities began, Phillip Knightley, author of a book on war reporting, The First Casualty, said Gulf War II would mean the demise of the war correspondent “as an objective, independent person trying to find out what is going on”.
And Knightley believes his fears are being borne out, with “embedded” correspondents being cared for by public affairs officers “maintaining contact” with the journalists’ bureau chiefs.
“The Pentagon has been out to get Peter Arnett ever since he reported from Baghdad in Gulf War One,” Knightley tells BBC News Online. "It hates war correspondents being there and has pressurised all their employers to withdraw them.
“This is the new Pentagon. No more Mr Nice Guy. Report it our way or we’ll get you.”