I would say "threatened" is definitely a bad word. I know for a fact that I'm not threatened by a hijaabi. But the fact is that you're staring at someone who is dressed differently, and my immediate reaction is usually a double-take. Kinda sad for someone who has loads of hijaabi friends. Its just that I've met a lot of hijaabis that I feel are hypocrites...but then like I said, if I stop and think, I come to the conclusion that I'm actually a bigger hypocrite because at least these girls are trying to be more spiritual. Forget the hijaab part, I dont even have some basic Islamic practices right. So hijaab is far off for me.
See, I think to build yourself as a good muslim, you need to focus on your charactar - I could point out a million traits that Pakistanis commonly have and a million practices that are Islamically unsound. But they still go on in the name of culture and propriety. For example, like this stupid concept of a rukhsati after a nikkah nama (see Life1), and yet you have so many pakistanis engaging in the practice these days!
Its absolutely dumb, but it happens.
Another example - discipline. I'm not disciplined much, I know, and most other pakistanis aren't either. Isn't discipline an Islamic virtue? I'd rather work on that before I put any scarf on my head.
So, when I see a hijaaban, I guess the difference I'm really seeing is of priority - I ask myself if that girl has the same priorities Islamically-speaking than I do - is she molding her character as well as her appearance. In my experience, most girls will just put on a hijaab because they've been told its the religious thing to do - so in order to get religious, they change appearance first. But I always feel that one should change themselves from inside first. Yeh hijaab aanay jaaney ki cheez hai. You can wear all the hijaab you want, but if your soul is not pure, then forget it - you're doing something useless.
See I always had some hope in you. I agree that it should be worn for the actual reasons and not to feel superior to others.
But what hijaban have you met who wears it to feel above others? I need reasons and examples along with your personal views.
Sherni — A hijab with shalvar kameez, or a pant suit with a sort of trench coat / long sweater on top is in my view - is modest. I dont think a person has to wear a full jilbab in order to be modest. I wish I could get some pics to decribe to you of what Im trying to say.
verizon-- arghh back to topic. Nobody said hijabans cant be drop dead gorgeous. As silly as that might sounds- thats another misconception (the looks not being good enough)!
ok so say a girl wears a t-shirt - is she being immodest? Modesty varies with the cultural climate. Put me in my average American t-shirt and boot-cut jeans (figure fitting) in Quetta and I'll be considered the whore. Put me in South Beach, and everyone will think I'm a new age nun. (I'm quite serious -I always go to the beach in jeans and I get into the water with jeans too - people think I'm crzy).
Just like its unfair to judge a hijaabi, its unfair to judge a non-hijaabi and think she's not dressing modestly with the clothes she wears. - She might be perfectly modest because she's not intending on showing her body off with her clothes - again, who are you to judge?
PCG thanks. yeah your post made a lot of sense. But I guess you're one of the very few people who looks at the situaion that way...usually people will judge others but will forget to do the same for themselves.
Hey Im a hijaban yet I can say Ive met some hypocrites too.Its common enough.:p
I guess the main thing is that people should be allowed to judge so long as they look at all sides of the situation and include themselves in that judgement.
Hijaab with salwar kameez? ummm what is that? Hijaab is just hijaab, you dont wear anything over it. Its something which covers you all the way. And It might be modest, but still its not hijaab. Let me find you the defination of hijaab. You wear Khimaar.
Your trying to do the opposite? how? You’v placed a label on women who wear the Hijab.
You’v labelled them “hijabans”
they are people first…maybe this is the problem, sometimes, some people tend to label themselves yet force it upon others not to think of them in a certain way…and im not talking just about people who wear the Hijab…
I know some women who wear the hijab who think that they deserve some sort of reward and praise for doing so. this praise is a judgement, yet some women who wear the hijab asked not to be judged for doing so?
I dont get it…
Don’t forget you asked for opinions, so please take mine as such, im getting sick of being the Biitch with my “unappreciated” opinions these days.
I have met Many hijabans in my life. Met a couple in college. Got to know two up close and personal. Most of them wore the do rag because of the traiditons in their household. More to show an ill perceived sense of piety or moderation to their families and outside world. As I said, it is all the same when it is on or off.
They are no more or less pious, moderate and god fearing (a term that I find highly offensive) than your run of the day..muslims or folks form other traditions.
MQ, I don’t need to meet a Hijaban to form my views. I have never seen an un-Hijaban opening topics on not wearing Hiajb every week on a website wanting other people’s opinion if not wearing one is OK.
No My dear lil barbie, what I am tryingto say is that if that knockout would not have been wearing a hijab I would have probably ignored her as some other lolita, it was the hijab that got my attention.
To me hijabans are women that want to be differentiated. There is nothing religious about the turban (sikhism) more of a stand apart thing.
SO women that are insecure and want that belonging insceurity will probably go out and wear a hijab.
A person who practices law - lawyer
a person who practicies medicine- doctor
a person who teaches- teacher
I am not placing labels on anyone. Thanks for your views as for bitches lets just say I dont wish to bring that up in my thread and Im not interested. And I dont know why you brought it up.
Madhanee— haha. Good one. Well hey Im just another person I can ask what I want. Btw you still dont know me at all. You judgemental ogre you.
Interesting. So a woman who is not wearing it and is good looking is “another lolita”? And women wear it because they are insecure? What makes you think these women are insecure? And what are they insecure about? Plus isnt it actually more difficult to fit in if you wear a hijab or dress differently?
Sherni-- I understand what you are saying. Ive read the ayas many many times about women , hijab and modesty. I understand what you mean. But in my view if a dress or shalvar kameez is loose ,covers properly and does not reveal the womans shape - isnt that modest?
If you read carefully, the ill perceived sense of piety forms judgemental outlooks. lateral thinking is also amiss among hijabans. They have a one track mind. God and sex..sex and god.
To me they are like any other woman. TO them they think they are omething special. Hope this makes it easier for you.
IMO People who are insecure do things like that. In other words they try to be conspicous.
regarding "another lolita" I actually put down 'piece of Meat', but was being respectful. Iwill not be respectful from this point on and truly share my opinions with insecure silly twits like you.:)
Lets hear it from you , why would you wear a napkin on your head. Does it make you look more religious? Or do you want muslim men to look at you and say now heres a cool pious muslim woman. It's nothing but eye catching becasue it is different.
If you go to pakistan the men there only look at chicks that are not wearing a chowder or a burka, the others are meat to play with.
MQ, you don't understand my point. You wear headscarf right? That's not hijaab. And even if the dress is loose, it's still not hijaab, hijaab is one piece of kapra, not several pieces.
It might be modest, but still you can't call it hijaab.
As silly as that might sounds- thats another misconception (the looks not being good enough)!
