Pentagon Defends Gen. Who insults Muslims

Pentagon Defends Gen. Who Chided Muslims
By MATT KELLEY, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Pentagon (news - web sites) leaders on Thursday spoke up in support of a top general who has told church audiences that the war on terrorism is a battle with Satan and that Muslims worship idols.

Army Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin has made several speeches — some in uniform — at evangelical Christian churches in which he cast the war on terrorism in religious terms. Boykin said of a 1993 battle with a Muslim militia leader in Somalia: “I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God, and his was an idol.”

Boykin did not respond Thursday to a request for comment.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Thursday he had not seen Boykin’s comments, but he praised the three-star general, who is the Pentagon’s deputy undersecretary of defense for intelligence.

“He is an officer that has an outstanding record in the United States armed forces,” Rumsfeld said at a news conference.

Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said he had spoken in uniform at prayer breakfasts, adding he did not think Boykin broke any military rules by giving talks at churches.

“There is a very wide gray area on what the rules permit,” Myers said. “At first blush, it doesn’t look like any rules were broken.”

A Republican senator visiting the Pentagon Thursday was more critical.

Sen. Lincoln D. Chafee of Rhode Island said he had not been aware of Boykin’s statements as reported in the news media, then added, “If that’s accurate, to me it’s deplorable.”

A Muslim civil rights group on Thursday called for Boykin to be reassigned.

“Putting a man with such extremist views in a critical policy-making position sends entirely the wrong message to a Muslim world that is already skeptical about America’s motives and intentions,” said Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

Awad’s statement noted that a verse in the Quran says Muslims believe in the same God as Jews and Christians.

Boykin’s church speeches, first reported by NBC News and the Los Angeles Times, cast the war on terrorism as a religious battle between Christians and the forces of evil.

Appearing in dress uniform before a religious group in Oregon in June, Boykin said Islamic extremists hate the United States “because we’re a Christian nation, because our foundation and our roots are Judeo-Christian. … And the enemy is a guy named Satan.”

Rumsfeld on Thursday repeated the Bush administration position that the war on terrorism is not a war against Islam but against people “who have tried to hijack a religion.”

The defense secretary said he could not prevent military officials from making controversial statements.

“We’re a free people. And that’s the wonderful thing about our country,” Rumsfeld said. “I think that for anyone to run around and think that that can be managed and controlled is probably wrong. Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) could do it pretty well, because he’d go around killing people if they said things he didn’t like.”

Comment:

The open season on attacking and insulting Islam continues by senior army officers who are in turn defended by even more senior politicians. I wonder how the muslims who serve in the american army feel when their way of life is callled satanic? Maybe they should think about whose intrests they are serving it certainly is not the intrests of Islam and muslims. But then again if muslims follow satan then the best place for them is in the american crusader army. Rumsfeld says he belives in free speech but when Osama says things against america and jews then its offensive and not free speech.

The General is a jackass.

Why when Mahatir (how ever you spell his name) says something against jews is all over the media and this comment of general is swept under the rug?

Big rug.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/981411.asp?0dm=C1BON

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/16/attack/main578471.shtml

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20031017_606.html

Where i am coming from ( that is Australia) it wasn't in news at all.

This is not a War on Islam. I repeat, this is not a War on Islam. The Americans have stated this time and time again.

This is a War on Muslims.

There's a difference according to American School of Thought!

Muslims who are offended by his remarks should be more offended by the people he is belittling who are calling themselves Muslim. From the remarks I read he is demeaning the terrorists who use God as justification for murder and mayhem. If someone decides that these terrorists represent them or their religion and are offended, then they don't have any right to complain about this general's comments.

Yes yes seminole this general is a little lost sheep in the woods the real evil is Islam at large. Way to go in re-wording the jack-ass (ref: Fruadia see above).

Isn’t General jack-ass using God to justify his stand against Islam?

oh what a tangled web we weave when we try and squirm about defending an administration in the ‘birghtest and best’ democracy in the world which incidentally no one voted in :hehe:

Seminole

So what do the Americans use in justification for their murders. God.

Like I said, this is not a War on Islam, but a War on Muslims. Why?

Because America says so and they say that their is a difference!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep the double standard theory and practice to yourself.

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Muslims who are offended by his remarks should be more offended by the people he is belittling who are calling themselves Muslim. From the remarks I read he is demeaning the terrorists who use God as justification for murder and mayhem. If someone decides that these terrorists represent them or their religion and are offended, then they don't have any right to complain about this general's comments.
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You sound like Dubya...

I am not defending anyone or denying that anyone is a jackass. I think anyone who uses religion as justification for violence is way off base. But this man is on record (as is almost anyone in this administration) as saying he respects Muslims and believes the radicals who attack America are “not true followers of Islam.” If anyone believes that they are, then they have no right to complain about this guy because they are just as warped.

So the admin now decides who the true followers of Islam are.

They mean the ones who go to the Church and the Synagogue?

Forget Admin...I just decided you ar enot a true follower of Islam. A grant relgion, ehcih th elikes of you defile everyday.Consider it your fatwa du-jour

You’re breaking up Matsui, it must be those pudgy fingers hitting two keys at once :hehe:

Let’s have another edit then we can get a real measure of how much nonesense you’re spewing.

Nah I am trying to cover the many forums with my fatwas.

If you want to claim these terrorists as poor, misunderstood Muslims, then don't be surprised at the backlash and stereotyping of Muslims. If Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson or some other "Christian" idiot started killing Muslims in the name of God, I assure you a loud, vocal majority of Christians would not consider them as true followers of Christianity (some question it anyway). This bozo General is right about one thing - terrorists are in bed with Satan.

"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" - A little girl

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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
I am not defending anyone or denying that anyone is a jackass. I think anyone who uses religion as justification for violence is way off base. But this man is on record (as is almost anyone in this administration) as saying he respects Muslims and believes the radicals who attack America are “not true followers of Islam.” If anyone believes that they are, then they have no right to complain about this guy because they are just as warped.
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I'll go on the record too and say I think all non-Muslims are to be respected and treated as equals to Muslims.

BTW all non-Muslim scum are in league with the devil and should be put to a torturous death a-sap.

But then that sounds all confuddled and bemuzled.....hmm.

The admin can keep defining, and it's supporters can keep saying yes sir yes sir, three bags full sir.

Seminole

Believe me, the Ira, Eta, Aum Shinrikyo, Cpp/Npa, Real IRA and Farc are not going to be too pleased with your 'Bed with Satan' outburst against them.

Furthermore, what's Bush going to say to you for labelling his organisation with Satan.

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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
I am not defending anyone or denying that anyone is a jackass. I think anyone who uses religion as justification for violence is way off base. But this man is on record (as is almost anyone in this administration) as saying he respects Muslims and believes the radicals who attack America are “not true followers of Islam.” If anyone believes that they are, then they have no right to complain about this guy because they are just as warped.
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Thing is you believe what he says is truth we don't :p . "respects muslims" bull!
But seriously the lunatics who calls them jahidis are not doing good to muslim image nor any islamic duty by killing civilians. But then isn't army of US doing the same thing?