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the question also is that people ho have disappeared, did they disappear because they were picked up by security forces, or did they go underground cuz they were involved in hanky panky.
it could be either or a combo.
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The same guys were initially crying about how this 'judge' backed up by musharraf had his son in the FIA through pawwaz, and now that hes suspended, they have taken a u-turn..
karna parta hai na waqt kay saath.
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It is a sad day, the dictator summoning CJ to the president house and than sacking him. He is no better than the ones he removed. Whether one attacks the supreme court building and intimidates the CJ or calls him to president house and sacks him there is not much difference. Pathetic to say the least.
Well said, but it seems these kid's just don't understand how detrimental acts like this are to Pakistan, it's present and especially future
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the question also is that people ho have disappeared, did they disappear because they were picked up by security forces, or did they go underground cuz they were involved in hanky panky.
it could be either or a combo.
when the 'disappeared' are seen being lifted and thrown into police/army mobile's, that is the reason people are blaming the govt
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It is a sad day, the dictator summoning CJ to the president house and than sacking him. He is no better than the ones he removed. Whether one attacks the supreme court building and intimidates the CJ or calls him to president house and sacks him there is not much difference. Pathetic to say the least.
Bhai who told you that CJ is sacked?
Nevertheless, what you think? If there is allegations and charges comes to the notice of President regarding CJ, what President should do?
Should tell CJ to carry on judge, do what you like, this country is a dog country and you are master of justice, so use your power the way you like.
Or call CJ and ask him regarding clearing the allegations and if CJ could not answer, suspend him and set up an enquiry?
What do you suggest?
[Do not go on how President Musharraf came to power, as he came to power as most of our Muslim rulers came to power (be it past rulers or present). Only difference is that, all past Muslim rulers came to power either through inheritance or working (struggling) to come to power (by being candidate, by election or by force). Most elections in Muslim countries (and most third world countries) till now at best were farce.
At least what is official story, Musharraf is the only ruler in history of Islam that came to power by others (Pakistan army generals) forcing him in power when he was not looking for power nor aware of it. It would have been easy for generals to not even recognise him as chief when Nawaz sacked him and even when army made a coup, the then acting army chief could have taken over instead of handing the power to Musharraf.
What I know, even when power was handed to him, he was unwilling to take it and wanted to talk to NS to stay in power but accept him as army chief too. That is the reason for Musharraf addressing the nation on that takeover night so late (takeover happened in evening and his speech came much after midnight). NS was ignorant to not accept that.
NS should have known that Pakistan is not his dad jageer. He was not King that he can sack anyone he likes in government without any valid reason, just because he does not like the face of the person. That only happens in kingdoms, not democracies. Even president Bush or Prime Minister Blair could not do that. Ganja started thinking that he was King of Pakistan and all government servants were his personal employee that he can sack anyone he likes regardless of any valid reasons or give appointments to anyone he likes regardless of any qualifications.
Actually Ganja gave Musharraf post of Joint chief of staff just to take confidence of Musharraf couple of days before trying to sack him, just to take him into confidence. And when Musharraf went abroad on official visit, ganja tried to sack him. This shows that Ganja NS was munafiq too and his giving extra post to Musharraf showing Musharraf his confidence was nothing but munafiqat.
What I know, other then president Musharraf, probably only Hazrat Ali (RA) came to power in Islamic history because others forced him into power. Rest were all official candidates for power before getting into power, inherited power, appointed into power or forced their own way into power. If you know of any other name, please increase my knowledge].
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There was a Tariq Majid General. There's some that have been found guilty too. Will get the names.
still waiting.....you have posted since this post
your lies have been proven once again :D
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^^ If there’s a reason to arrest such people, then I support it, in fact I cheer it on. I want all potential suicide bombers arrested so that when I’m in pakistan I can go shopping and walk the streets safely without the fear of some radical nut blowing himself up.
Pakistan has a FREE MEDIA. There are no arrests of political opponents common in dictatorships where media is controlled. Disappearances and torture are common of political opponents where there is not a free media in order to silence them. If Musharaff wants to disappear his political opponents the first thing to do is to silence the media, which he hasnt done. Therefore the arrested people must not be political opponents, they must be people that are security risks to Pakistan or some other criminals. That is why most sensible people support these nutjobs being arrested.
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So the main charges against him are that he had helped appointment of his son,who had taken 16 out of 100 marks in CSS Exam & keeps a BMW 7 Series car.
That he himself travels in Government Planes for Private Ceremonies.
That he disrespects his juniors & conducts cases against the laws of the country.
But again who else doesn't do all that S*** in Pakistan...Come on...
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:rotfl:
One day you little boys accuse me of ignoring Army corruption:
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=246278
The next day u little boys say I only blame the Army
you dictatorship lover’s need to make up your mind :rotfl:
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still waiting.....you have posted since this post
your lies have been proven once again :D
You asked for one General that's been prosecuted, I gave one. I'm not spending all my time searching for you. Do some yourself, I can assure you others have been prosecuted and some military officials have been made to pay huge fines for corruption by NAB before.
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So the main charges against him are that he had helped appointment of his son,who had taken 16 out of 100 marks in CSS Exam & keeps a BMW 7 Series car.
That he himself travels in Government Planes for Private Ceremonies.
That he disrespects his juniors & conducts cases against the laws of the country.
But again who else doesn't do all that S*** in Pakistan...Come on...
A lot of people might do it in Pakistan. But he is a senior judge. The cases of these sorts of corruption need to be stamped out at the top first. Then the other cases can follow.
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Once again, stop trying to spread your lies
It’s not working 
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when the 'disappeared' are seen being lifted and thrown into police/army mobile's, that is the reason people are blaming the govt
sure man, I have no doubt that many ppl are being picked up by govt but I think there are many who are underground as well. I recall back in the MQM ghunda gardee days in Karachi, there were shahzaday who were officially missing, but living at someone else's house in a diff city.
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Pakistan has not only a free media, but one of the FREEIST in the WHOLE world. The media in Pakistan can say what they want. They are independent, they can criticize the government and often do.
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actually I said a few , not one. It’s all written down
Then you said you would come up with the names.
Your lie’s and BS are exposed in every post
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sure man, I have no doubt that many ppl are being picked up by govt but I think there are many who are underground as well. I recall back in the MQM ghunda gardee days in Karachi, there were shahzaday who were officially missing, but living at someone else's house in a diff city.
true, but i don't think the relatives of those 'underground' went to the courts claiming the govt took them
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but they did claim that they were missing in action. but there is really no excuse for picking ppl up and just having them disappear, I mean charge them, hold them, but not just pick em up and do an abra cadabra.poof..person gone. That I can never support ...period.
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There’s General Tariq Majid, Admiral Mansoor al-Haq. There’s more if you look. In fact the admiral was found guilty by NAB.
http://www.icac.org.hk/newsl/issue14eng/button3.htm
The case of Admiral Mansoor ul Haq who, at the age of 66 years, returned US$7.5 million to the Government of Pakistan as a plea-bargain is a unique event in our justice system when illegal money/assets stashed away in foreign banks have been returned to the country of origin.
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Bhai who told you that CJ is sacked?
Nevertheless, what you think? If there is allegations and charges comes to the notice of President regarding CJ, what President should do?
Should tell CJ to carry on judge, do what you like, this country is a dog country and you are master of justice, so use your power the way you like.
Or call CJ and ask him regarding clearing the allegations and if CJ could not answer, suspend him and set up an enquiry?
What do you suggest?
[Do not go on how President Musharraf came to power, as he came to power as most of our Muslim rulers came to power (be it past rulers or present). Only difference is that, all past Muslim rulers came to power either through inheritance or working (struggling) to come to power (by being candidate, by election or by force). Most elections in Muslim countries (and most third world countries) till now at best were farce.
At least what is official story, Musharraf is the only ruler in history of Islam that came to power by others (Pakistan army generals) forcing him in power when he was not looking for power nor aware of it. It would have been easy for generals to not even recognise him as chief when Nawaz sacked him and even when army made a coup, the then acting army chief could have taken over instead of handing the power to Musharraf.
What I know, even when power was handed to him, he was unwilling to take it and wanted to talk to NS to stay in power but accept him as army chief too. That is the reason for Musharraf addressing the nation on that takeover night so late (takeover happened in evening and his speech came much after midnight). NS was ignorant to not accept that.
NS should have known that Pakistan is no his dad jageer. He was not King that he can sack anyone he likes in government without any valid reason, just because he does not like the face of the person. That only happens in kingdoms, not democracy. Even president Bush or Prime Minister Blair could not do that. Ganja started thinking that he was King of Pakistan and all government servants were his personal employee that he can sack anyone he likes regardless of any valid reasons or give appointments to anyone he likes regardless of any qualifications.
Actually Ganja gave Musharraf post of Joint chief of staff just to take confidence of Musharraf couple of days before trying to sack him, just to take him into confidence. And when Musharraf went abroad on official visit, ganja tried to sack him. This shows that Ganja NS was munafiq too and his giving extra post to Musharraf showing Musharraf his confidence was nothing but munafiqat.
What I know, other then president Musharraf, probably only Hazrat Ali (RA) came to power in Islamic history because others forced him into power. Rest were all official candidates for power before getting into power, inherited power, appointed into power or forced their own way into power. If you know of any other name, please increase my knowledge].
First of all the CJ should not be answerable to the president. The judiciary should be independent of the executive. Do you believe in that or not? The reason for that is exactly for what happened today. Any two bit dictator decides the CJ has a case to answer and "suspends" him. Nice way of getting out of saying he is sacking the person. I also hear that he did so on the advice of the PM. The same PM who also not only uses the official planes for his personal use but carries his chum by the dozen on foreign trips. Why hasn't the president suspended him and investigated him? Or could it be that the reasons are somewhat different for CJ's suspension?
As for him being thrusted into power, he should have done what he came for, cleaning the corruption as he promised, not rewarding them with seats in his govt. and making the most corrupt person in Pakistan (Ch. Shujat) as PM of Pakistan.
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^^how many houses does Musharraf own?