I'm not denying that it isn't possible. The associated violence and problems that arise can not be discounted. Can you (or anyone) provide guarantees of the safety of the minorities? Can you or anyone guarantee that forced expilsions will not occur? Any change to Pakistan's geography will be met with extreme violence, that is the ONLY guarantee so far.
Pak-One, of course, no one can gaurantee (or ever has guaranteed) smooth parting of ways between ethnic groups in a distintegrating state. Neither, the spectre of bloodshed and forced migration have stopped ethnic groups from seeking autonomy and self-rule or outright sessation. If that were the case, bloodshed would never have occurred in East Pakistan and Bangla Desh and Pakistan would never have come into being (for fear of bloodshed, massacre).
Yet partition took place both in 1971 and 1947 (despite the scale of bloodshed). Were Qaued-i-Azam and Shiekh Mujib not cognizant of this? Were Yahya Khan and other generals not aware of the consequences of the extreme step they took in 1971? Of course they were but the dynamics of a failing/dyfunctional state and political system and resurgent political aspirations don't take stock of such issues.
And that is precisely the point I want to bring home.
Rest the conversion of Pakistan into a federal state, it would be better if that happens (there seem unfortunately little chances of that). And that is what would be a step towards an eventual soft collapse.
Pak-One, of course, no one can gaurantee (or ever has guaranteed) smooth parting of ways between ethnic groups in a distintegrating state. Neither, the spectre of bloodshed and forced migration have stopped ethnic groups from seeking autonomy and self-rule or outright sessation. If that were the case, bloodshed would never have occurred in East Pakistan and Bangla Desh and Pakistan would never have come into being (for fear of bloodshed, massacre).
Yet partition took place both in 1971 and 1947 (despite the scale of bloodshed). Were Qaued-i-Azam and Shiekh Mujib not cognizant of this? Were Yahya Khan and other generals not aware of the consequences of the extreme step they took in 1971? Of course they were but the dynamics of a failing/dyfunctional state and political system and resurgent political aspirations don't take stock of such issues.
And that is precisely the point I want to bring home.
Rest the conversion of Pakistan into a federal state, it would be better if that happens (there seem unfortunately little chances of that). And that is what would be a step towards an eventual soft collapse.
It's pretty interesting that you reference Quaid E Azam because according to the sources (both written and oral) he did not expect that grand level of violence and migration. In fact he fully expected the minorities in Pakistan to stay.
As for Mujib, he was the democratically elected leader of Pakistan and his devolution of power and the vision of federalism was much more in line with what the West Pakistanis were willing to accept. Also, you can not underestimate the fact that the violent Pak. Army crackdown furthered the spiral of violence. Many people argue that Mujib was secessionist from the start, but we will never know what the implementation of the 5 points would have entailed.
I do agree with you on the failure of the Centre. We are approaching a defining moment where many things can be possible. A united Pakistan that devolves power and grants sufficent provincial autonomy is in the best interest of everyone (excepting the entrenched elite).
Lets deal with this systematically. For Pakistan to Balkanize, the very basic need is for the government system to collapse and the current leadership infrastructure (Military, political and economic) to have a complete meltdown.
While most said this was possible in 2005-2007. I never agreed with it. And I still do not. Pakistan is fighting on multiple fronts, both internal threats and also invisible external threats, the state apparatus still has a very solid control over the majority of the country. The actions in Swat have proven that.
As soon as we clean out the Tribal belt we should turn our attention to Balochistan and deal with the threats that are being funded by external sources.
I have yet to see any emperical evidence that Pakistan is on its way to being a failed state. It has problems which we shall over come. Inshallah.
We need to utilize this opportunity to cleanup the FATA, and add FATA to NWPF.
Balochistan is another headache for Pakistani government. I think Balochistan should be divided into North Balochistan, Centeral Balochistan and South Balochistan.
North Balochistan Governor: Mr. Mir Jan Mohammad Jamali
Centeral Balochistan Governor: Sanaullah Baloch
Soout Balochistan Governor: Dr. Wahid Baloch
Making new provinces is a bad idea as it puts a good deal of financial constraints on the government and the people payig taxes. Keep the existing states and integrate FATA and PATA into the existing states.
Making new provinces is a bad idea as it puts a good deal of financial constraints on the government and the people payig taxes. Keep the existing states and integrate FATA and PATA into the existing states.
Why fix something when it is not broken?
Nothing has been fixed in Pakistan. (Everything need to fix, Pakistan suffers from a number of social, political, and economic problems, Monstrous Debt, Education, Poverty, Extremisim / Terrorism, and Government- Political Corrupted politician)
Just look at the North Area, finally now after 60 years they are has been given the status of a province.
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NOT A SINGLE THING IS RIGHT WITH THE COUNTRY (PAKISTAN) WHICH HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 60 YEARS, WE LOST EAST PAKISTAN AND IT SHOULD BE REMINDER TO ALL THOSE WHO THINK THAT NOTHING IS NEED TO BE FIX.**
WE Should give power and share resources with Puktoon, Balochi and Seriaki by not given them their province. Idea to divide country and create province base on ethnicity will never work in Pakistan. We need to remove the current provinces name and create new multi-ethnic provinces.
I don't understand why Balochi want their own province when they don't even make 5% of the total population. There are more Puktoon and other ethnic group in Baluchistan then Balochi.
I think we need to bring back our brother (Bihari) from East Pakistan and shift them in Kalat, Ziarat, Khuzdar and Lasbela districts.
The Northern areas were not given the status of a province because part of them are contested territory that was originally part of Kashmir pre independence.
I am sorry who are the Seriaki and why do they deserve a seperate share of resources? Please don't tell me you are one of those guys who beleives in communal supremcy over that of the country?
As for Balochi and their own province? Because historically Balochistan consisted of seperate princely states that were all balochi. Obviously you need to read more about Pakistan's history and not think on communal lines.
Does Iran have the same problem as Pakistan when it comes to Baloch population? No - Because Iran has balls and our leaders are salve of the west. Iran uses it resources properly. Even though Iran is under sanctions and west is trying to control Iran by limiting its trade with other countries, Iran economic situation is better then Pakistan.
Pakistan corrupted leaders steal majority of of the money from our country…poor are getting poorer and rich are getting richer.
Nations on the other hand need intelligent political leaders who can protect their people from obvious attacks and sanctions. And iranian leadership clearly show the IQ of a 2 years old child.
With the all the wealth of oil etc., they live like beggars compared to the people of UAE.
All because of the defeatists suicidal attitude of the Iranian leadership.
Corruption?
haahah. You haven’t been to Iran obviously. Oh bhai, they have all kinds of religious, moral, social, and political corruption. Compare the elite areas of Tehran and you will see how Westernized the Iranian baboos live compared to the pathetically poor rural masses.
The issue is not of what we have done wrong with Balochistan. We have done a lot of wrong things. However cutting up the province is a retarded idea as it will cause more drama and problems.
The issue is not of what we have done wrong with Balochistan. We have done a lot of wrong things. However cutting up the province is a retarded idea as it will cause more drama and problems.
Then get ready to say good by to Balochistan, it will be just another 1971 when we lost East Pakistan.
