Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Pakistan has been playing both sides. On one side you support war on terror against Taliban by providing all support to American forces.
On the other hand, when the same Taliban attack you for supporting American, you cleverly put the blame on Americans. Taliban is bombing your streets becoz you have joined the American war on terror.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Pakistan provides all logistic support to American in their war against Taliban in Afghanistan. Pakistan provides supply routes to America in war against Taliban. Pakistan is an American ally in the war against Taliban. You are biggest non-nato ally of America.
If you are an American Ally, so naturally you are enemies of Taliban.
Yes Pakistan has done a lot for the US and has been backstabbed once again by the US. In return we get Pakistanis being killed by drones, killed by terrorism, killed by poverty, we get a US supported government that destroys the country, Pakistani currency has been devalued and the national debt has doubled ot trebled in the last 5 years.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Pakistan has been playing both sides. On one side you support war on terror against Taliban by providing all support to American forces.
On the other hand, when the same Taliban attack you for supporting American, you cleverly put the blame on Americans. Taliban is bombing your streets becoz you have joined the American war on terror.
Why would the Taleban attack us when we are supposed to be sheltering their leadership in Quetta and supporting them? doesn't that seem like a contradiction?
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Forget about Pakistan why is our ally the US using drones to only eliminate the opponents of TTP while the TTP has been gaining strength. Why is the US allowing terrorists to escape to Afghanistan and launch attacks from there against Pakistan? It was been proven that the US has agents in TTP so why can they not eliminate it? Why did the US forces attack Salala Pakiistan army border post?
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Yes Pakistan has done a lot for the US and has been backstabbed once again by the US. In return we get Pakistanis being killed by drones, killed by terrorism, killed by poverty, we get a US supported government that destroys the country, Pakistani currency has been devalued and the national debt has doubled ot trebled in the last 5 years.
By this statement, Paksitan has made itself enemy of Taliban. Any nation that supports US war against Taliban is an enemy of Taliban.
You cannot support Talibanization and American war against Taliban at the same time.You will be slapped from the both sides.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Why would the Taleban attack us when we are supposed to be sheltering their leadership in Quetta and supporting them? doesn't that seem like a contradiction?
You are sheltering those Taliban that are fighting against USA. On one hand, you are an American ally and on the other hand you are sheltering their leadership. Is that a contradiction??
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Forget about Pakistan why is our ally the US using drones to only eliminate the opponents of TTP while the TTP has been gaining strength. Why is the US allowing terrorists to escape to Afghanistan and launch attacks from there against Pakistan? It was been proven that the US has agents in TTP so why can they not eliminate it? Why did the US forces attack Salala Pakiistan army border post?
American drones are targeting Taliban that are fighting against Americans. Why will not America target those Taliban???
Are you targetting those Taliban that are against America??? No
Why should American target those Tanliban i.e. TTP that are not targetting Americans???
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
You are sheltering those Taliban that are fighting against USA. On one hand, you are an American ally and on the other hand you are sheltering their leadership.
on the one hand the Americans are our ally on the other hand they turn a blind eye to the Taliban who attacks Pakistan and shelter their leadership. It is amazing that they can find the leadership of anti american Taliban and kill them with their drones abut they cant find any leaders of TTP which are sheltering in Afghanistan. Yeah, likely story.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
American drones are targeting Taliban that are fighting against Americans. Why will not America target those Taliban???
Are you targetting those Taliban that are against America??? No
Why should American target those Tanliban i.e. TTP that are not targetting Americans???
They are not targeting TTP because they are sheltering them and using them against Pakistan.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
This thread is not for Indian that wish to divert the discussion towards ISI. If you wish to discuss ISI then open a new thread.
towards ISI?
my point is, you seem to think the CIA is a supernatural organization, capable of getting an assorted bunch of goons to operate like a team of ruthless surgeons. all under the noses of pakistani army and intelligence in its own territory.
there are much simpler explanations. of course, you can only wake up a sleeping person. not one who pretends to be asleep.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
on the one hand the Americans are our ally on the other hand they turn a blind eye to the Taliban who attacks Pakistan and shelter their leadership. It is amazing that they can find the leadership of anti american Taliban and kill them with their drones abut they cant find any leaders of TTP which are sheltering in Afghanistan. Yeah, likely story.
Your logic against you!!
One one hand Pakistanis are our ally on the other hand they turn a blind eye Taliban who attacks USA and shelter their leadership.
What about the Taliban in Quetta and places where "good" Taliban exist?? Has Pakistan taken any action agaisn them
Who killed Baitaullah Mehsud of TTP?? It was American Drone Strike.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
By this statement, Paksitan has made itself enemy of Taliban. Any nation that supports US war against Taliban is an enemy of Taliban.
You cannot support Talibanization and American war against Taliban at the same time.You will be slapped from the both sides.
Pakistan also did a lot for the US in the afghan war against the Soviets. The US created these groups, Pakistan had to deal with KHAD inspired terrorist in Pakistan and then when Pakistan wins the war for US, ends the cold war and makes US the sole superpower what happens? the US does not sell 71 F-16 that Pakistan had contracted and paid for. The US charges Pakistan for parking the planes that it will not deliver, and bills Pakistan for these charges. The US fails to even return the money back to Pakistan. Eventually Pakistan gets paid in **Soya bean **after deducting charges. There was no Taleban then, so you cannot say that we were supporting the Taleban at the time.
Taleban and the CIA militant group that goes tries to use the Taleban name, have nothing in common. One is fighting to liberate its country and the other wants to destablise Pakistan.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Pakistanalso did a lot for the US in the afghan war against the soviets. The US created these groups, Pakistan had to deal with KHAD inspired terrorist in Pakistan and then when Pakistan wins the war for US and ends the cold war and makes US the sole superpower what happens? the US does not sell 71 F-16 that Pakistan had paid for. The US charges Pakistan for parking the planes that it will not delivery and bills Pakistan for these charges. The US fails to even return the money back to Pakistan. Eventually Pakistan gets paid in Soya bean. There was no Taleban then.
Taleban and the CIA militant group that goes tries to use the Taleban name have nothing in common. One is fighting to liberate its country and the other wants to destablise Pakistan.
You are supporting and providing shelter to those who are fighting against Americans in the name of jihad.
Other Taliban want to fight against you, as you are supporting Americans in Afghanistan.
Its simple.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Your logic against you!!
One one hand Pakistanis are our ally on the other hand they turn a blind eye Taliban who attacks USA and shelter their leadership.
What about the Taliban in Quetta and places where "good" Taliban exist?? Has Pakistan taken any action agaisn them
Who killed Baitaullah Mehsud of TTP?? It was American Drone Strike.
Similarly your argument against them. leading TTP terrorists are in Afghanistan why cant the drones find them. Why hasnt America taken action against them. I thought there war was against all terrorists not only against the ones they dont like. secondly Good Taliban is the term invented by the Americans when they realised they could not defeat the Taliban and had to negotiate with them. They were sitting on the same tables with the terrorists with whom they "never" negotiate. Also amusing to note how our neighbours are riding on the tailcoats of the Americans and supporting them to the hilt to satisfy their anti Pakistan agenda.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
You are sheltering those Taliban that are fighting against USA. On one hand, you are an American ally and on the other hand you are sheltering their leadership. Is that a contradiction??
On the one hand you say that we are an ally of the US and supporting the US and that is the reason we are being targetted by TTP and on the other hand you are saying that we are sheltering the Taleban and supporting it and that is why we are being targetted by the US. Can you make up your mind.
Does not seem that Pakistan can win because you will always find some excuse to blame Pakistan. The US is faultless in all this, are we are to blame for helping it.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
American drones are targeting Taliban that are fighting against Americans. Why will not America target those Taliban???
Are you targetting those Taliban that are against America??? No
Why should American target those Tanliban i.e. TTP that are not targetting Americans???
Hmmmm because we are allowing it to use our airspace, we are providing logistics support to them, we are providing intelligence support to them and they are supposed to be our ally. Plenty of reasons for them to eliminate TTP but they are supporting the TTP and have agents inside it.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
You are supporting and providing shelter to those who are fighting against Americans in the name of jihad.
Other Taliban want to fight against you, as you are supporting Americans in Afghanistan.
Its simple.
If that is so, then it would be better for the Taleban to fight and liberate Afghanistan first instead of diverting their scarce resources by opening up a second front, and alienating people by senseless activities at a time when they need all the support that they can get.
Pakistan will always be here and they can fight Pakistan another day if they can not be eliminated by the US, and for them to not be eliminated they need to just fight on one front.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
towards ISI?
my point is, you seem to think the CIA is a supernatural organization, capable of getting an assorted bunch of goons to operate like a team of ruthless surgeons. all under the noses of pakistani army and intelligence in its own territory.
there are much simpler explanations. of course, you can only wake up a sleeping person. not one who pretends to be asleep.
I know what the CIA is and what it is not. I don't need any lessons on the CIA from anyone.
I would have thought it would have been easier to wake up a sleeping person than one that pretends to be sleep. Do you get the logic?
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Then how do you explain this:
And this is just from this month 
Key TTP leader killed in US drone strike - thenews.com.pk
Key TTP leader killed in US drone strike
MIRANSHAH: Commander Wali Muhammad aka Tufan Mehsud, a key Pakistani Taliban figure, has reportedly been killed in a US drone strike which also killed 11 other people, sources said on Sunday.
According to reports, the militant commander was a close relative of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan chief Hakimullah Mehsud and succeeded another commander Qari Hussian following his killing.
AFP adds: US drones fired a volley of missiles at militant hideouts in northwest Pakistan on Sunday, killing at least 12 Taliban fighters near the Afghan border, security officials said.
The missile attack took place in Babar Ghar village in South Waziristan, a tribal district bordering Afghanistan which is a stronghold of Taliban and Al-Qaeda-linked militants.
“US drones fired several missiles at two militant compounds. At least 12 militants have been killed and several others were wounded,” a security official in Miranshah told AFP under condition of anonymity.
The official earlier said eight militants were killed. “There are members of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) among those who have been killed,” he said, adding that a close relative of TTP chief Hakimullah Mehsud was among the dead.
“Most of the militants were from Punjabi Taliban group and a close relative of Hakimullah Mehsud,” the official said.
Another security official in the northwestern city of Peshawar confirmed the drone attacks and casualties.
Intelligence officials in Miranshah said that militants had died after US drones fired up to 10 missiles on three militant compounds in the Babar Ghar attack, but the security officials could not verify that account.
Residents said that militants had cordoned off the area and were looking for more dead or wounded in the debris.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Similarly your argument against them. leading TTP terrorists are in Afghanistan why cant the drones find them. Why hasnt America taken action against them. I thought there war was against all terrorists not only against the ones they dont like. secondly Good Taliban is the term invented by the Americans when they realised they could not defeat the Taliban and had to negotiate with them. They were sitting on the same tables with the terrorists with whom they "never" negotiate. Also amusing to note how our neighbours are riding on the tailcoats of the Americans and supporting them to the hilt to satisfy their anti Pakistan agenda.
What proof do you have that CIA is backing the TTP?
In an exhaustive debate with Arshad, the best he could do was Rupee News, Tattoos, and Uncircumcized Penis.
You are certainly more credible than him.
Do you have any proof of this supposed backing to TTP?