Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
I am just telling you about other theories although I go along with the official one.
Why? Well it could be that since Zardari was installed by the US, he did have to return some favours to the US for its support, if you accept this theory.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
I am just telling you about other theories although I go along with the official one.
Why? Well it could be that since Zardari was installed by the US, he did have to return some favours to the US for its support, if you accept this theory.
Stop dancing around the issue and answer my question.
Do you have any proof of TTP being supported by CIA?
Yes or No.
If Yes, please post it for everyone to see.
If No, then its nothing more than conspiratorial nonsense.
After all, TTP has been around since 2007 and you mean to tell me for over 6 years, these guys have been launching terrorist attacks in Pakistan and not a single iota of proof has been gathered against their supposed foreign backers?
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Previously you wrote :
**they recruited Afridi to run a vaccine campaign to collect DNA.
**They only decided that they needed a vaccine campaign in 2011, so therefore you are saying that he was recruited in 2011 to run the campaign, and when I tell you in fact he was recruited at the end of 2008 or 2009, you backtrack again. Backtracking like President Zardari is becoming your hallmark. Maybe I am getting to you.
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When did I agree with you he was recruited in 2008 or 2009.
All I said was he was recruited before he began the vaccine program. Obviously CIA would recruit him before they began the vaccine program.
They needed him to gather DNA samples for which I totally support.
So what should the CIA have done? Recruit him after the vaccine program? Or maybe recruit him after they have killed Bin Laden? 
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Stop dancing around the issue and answer my question.
Do you have any proof of TTP being supported by CIA?
Yes or No.
If Yes, please post it for everyone to see.
If No, then its nothing more than conspiratorial nonsense.
After all, TTP has been around since 2007 and you mean to tell me for over 6 years, these guys have been launching terrorist attacks in Pakistan and not a single iota of proof has been gathered against their supposed foreign backers?
Do you have any proof that CIA is not behind TTP? I have already given you a lot more evidence than you have given me. You accepted yourself that a lot of TTP terrorists consist of CIA agents. You also accepted that CIA has terrorists in various terrorist organisations.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Don’t you mean 2011? I think that you are losing it.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
You haven’t given me diddly squat.
Rupee News, Tattoos, Uncircumcized Penis…that is proof? Are you high or something?
Proof is like tapped phone conversations between TTP and their CIA handlers
Proof is like evidence found on dead TTP
Proof is like evidence found on Raymond Davis that he was backing the TTP
Proof is like money transfers to TTP by CIA
Proof is like weapon transfers to TTP by CIA
As for Proof that CIA is not behind TTP
How about Drone Strikes taking out TTP
TTP killing 9 CIA Agents looking for Bin Laden
TTP trying to blow up Times Square
TTP attacking NATO supply trucks
TTP pledging to focus their attacks solely on NATO in Afghanistan
Come on Arshad, you can do better than that. 
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Don't you mean 2011? I think that you are losing it.
You threw in 2008 and 2009. Read your previous post.
And since I never agreed with those dates and I said that he was recruited before the vaccine program began in 2011.
I think you are so desperate to make your case that your head is spinning.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Ok you want that kind of evidence. How about The Jordanian CIA agent killing his CIA handler at CIA base that specialises in FATA?
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Ok you want that kind of evidence. How about The Jordanian CIA agent killing his CIA handler at CIA base that specialises in FATA?
How does that prove that TTP are being supported by CIA?
It actually negates your case. TTP killing CIA agents which makes the case for the opposite.
That TTP is a sworn enemy of CIA.
But no worries.
After reading your posts for a while, if someone gives you the fact, you brain deduces the opposite.
:D
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How does that prove that TTP are being supported by CIA?
It actually negates your case. TTP killing CIA agents. Try again :D
lol I was waiting for you to get around to it.
Do you know why he killed his CIA handler? Because out of 3,500 people killed by drones for the first time CIA killed a TTP terrorist, perhaps because he knew too much, and the TTP wanted revenge.
It actually proves that CIA has terrorists within TTP. It links the CIA with TTP.
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lol I was waiting for you to get around to it.
Do you know why he killed his CIA handler? Because out of 3,500 people killed by drones for the first time CIA killed a TTP terrorist, perhaps because he knew too much, and the TTP wanted revenge.
It actually proves that CIA has terrorists within TTP.
CIA had devastated the TTP with their drone strikes and the TTP turned this agent around as revenge for those drone strikes and he killed those CIA agents.
It yet again furthers my case.
How does this prove that CIA is behind TTP when TTP are killing CIA?
Oh I forgot, your brain deduces the opposite. :D
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CIA had devastated the TTP with their drone strikes and the TTP turned this agent around as revenge for those drone strikes and he killed those CIA agents.
It yet again furthers my case.
How does this prove that CIA is behind TTP when TTP are killing CIA?
Oh I forgot, your brain deduces the opposite. :D
Out of 3,500 people killed by drone strikes you named just 2 TTP terrorists including the one mentioned above. How on earth is that devastation? If that is devastation then why is the TTP growing in strength? CIA has terrorists amongst its rank so it is not surprising they don't want to destroy it but in fact are destroying its rivals.
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Out of 3,500 people killed by drone strikes you named just 2 TTP terrorists including the one mentioned above. How on earth is that devastation? If that is devastation then why is the TTP growing in strength? CIA has terrorists amongst its rank so it is not surprising they don't want to destroy it but in fact are destroying its rivals.
I named two TTP leaders. There are countless of foot soldiers, mid-level lieutenants who get killed on a daily basis.
All this has reduced the TTP strength.
And I posted in one of the previous posts that suicide bombings have gone down as the drone strikes have gone up.
Again, please prove to me that CIA is behind TTP.
So far you are doing these mental gymnastics.
I actually feel sorry for you.
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
How does that prove that TTP are being supported by CIA?
It actually negates your case. TTP killing CIA agents which makes the case for the opposite.
That TTP is a sworn enemy of CIA.
But no worries.
After reading your posts for a while, if someone gives you the fact, you brain deduces the opposite.
:D
Sworn enemy? That despite having agents inside it that you cannot destroy it? You cannot use your drones against it? That you only eliminate its rivals?
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
Sworn enemy? That despite having agents inside it that you cannot destroy it? You cannot use your drones against it? That you only eliminate its rivals?
Its being destroyed. It will take time. Drones can only do so much. You need a ground offensive to completely eradicate it. But since the Pakistani Army will not launch an offensive, the drones are the only way to go.
Having spies within a terrorist organization does not make the spy agency a terrorist organization or complicit in its terrorist activities.
That is the most stupidest thing I have ever heard.
But again, you have failed, totally, miserably, to make any sort of case that TTP are being supported by foreigners.
All you have proven is what kind of loons actually believe this nonsense.
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I named two TTP leaders. There are countless of foot soldiers, mid-level lieutenants who get killed on a daily basis.
All this has reduced the TTP strength.
And I posted in one of the previous posts that suicide bombings have gone down as the drone strikes have gone up.
Again, please prove to me that CIA is behind TTP.
So far you are doing these mental gymnastics.
I actually feel sorry for you.
If the CIA terrorists have not been able to destroy TTP then what have they been doing inside TTP for the last several years? Murders, bombing, recruitment, training, Funding?
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If the CIA terrorists have not been able to destroy TTP then what have they been doing inside TTP for the last several years? Murders, bombing, recruitment, training, Funding?
They are spying on their terrorist activities, gathering intelligence, and then relying that intelligence to drones which take them out.
And that is the reason why the TTP's terrorist activities has dropped because so many TTP have been killed.
And that is the reason why TTP wanted revenge and killed 9 CIA Agents, and why they tried to blow up Times Square, and why they now have turned their guns solely on NATO forces.
Yet again you fail miserably to make a point.
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Its being destroyed. It will take time. Drones can only do so much. You need a ground offensive to completely eradicate it. But since the Pakistani Army will not launch an offensive, the drones are the only way to go.
Having spies within a terrorist organization does not make the spy agency a terrorist organization or complicit in its terrorist activities.
That is the most stupidest thing I have ever heard.
But again, you have failed, totally, miserably, to make any sort of case that TTP are being supported by foreigners.
All you have proven is what kind of loons actually believe this nonsense.
Stop backtracking again. You accepted that CIA has agents inside various terrorists organisation. On the one hand you are waging WOT but on the other supporting terrorists organisations. Why has TTP gone from strength to strength in several years despite have many CIA terrorists within this organisation?
Re: Pakistani Taleban: Run by foreign agencies
They are spying on their terrorist activities, gathering intelligence, and then relying that intelligence to drones which take them out.
And that is the reason why the TTP's terrorist activities has dropped because so many TTP have been killed.
And that is the reason why TTP wanted revenge and killed 9 CIA Agents, and why they tried to blow up Times Square, and why they now have turned their guns solely on NATO forces.
Yet again you fail miserably to make a point.
How long does it take for dozens of CIA terrorists within TTP to inform CIA who the other terrorists are within TTP? Drones can fly unseen and take real time images. So why are they not destroying TTP. 3,500 killed by drones and yet TTP has gone from strength to strength.