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even in 2003, when Pakistan scored and posted a huge total of 273.. we still lost it... despite having one of the best bowling attack...
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luTe huye ghar meN TV rakh kar koii karegaa bhii kia? uskaa toR denaa hii bahtareen Hikmat-e-'amali hai :p
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agree asif but i think problem is deeper than PCB's selection errors
we lost when we had imran khan minadad, salim malik, saqlain,waqar, wasim and indians had nothing except tendu and azhar
we lost when we had inzi, shoaib akhtar, saeed anwar, rashid latif,
we lost when we had saeed ajmal, umar gul, hafeez........
i know people are emotional right now and thinking if we had this player or that player we would have won
but it is not a simple selection error..problem is psychological in high pressure game
You are right. problem is not in expecting miracles but problem is for miracles not to happen. :)
I do not know how someone could expect a team consisting of mostly batsmen with average in low 30s and SR in low 70s to beat a team that has numerous players with average above 40 and SR in 80s and 90s.
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As players figures are, I would be surprised if India beats Australia in World cup, but that surprise would be less than Pakistan beating India.
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luTe huye ghar meN TV rakh kar koii karegaa bhii kia? uskaa toR denaa hii bahtareen Hikmat-e-'amali hai :p
remember overall we have whipped you 72 -51, long time before you catch us. So be happy with 6 -0 lead in one segment. The big picture is very depressing for your team.
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baat to sach hai magar baat hai rusvaaii kii...vaise, jangal meN mor naachaa, kis ne dekhaa? kal to 1 billion logoN ne dekhaa! :D
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if we go all the way to SF
San Diego or Florida may be balmier this time of the year.
Re: pakistani people showing anger on tv sets ? damaging their televisions.
So Indians are winning the Grand Salamis and Pakistanis are winning the Grand Prix circuit?
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absolutely..i have been so vocal about idiot younis khan in ODI squad...fawad alam shd be in there. other than that, you tell me..you are a serious student of pakistani cricket..what else do we have on bench....do we really have some special talent sitting there which we deliberately did not select?
Yes Fawad's the only glaring omission
To be honest The cupboard is empty but I am also miffed at the apparent lack of forward thinking and planning on the part of PCB. I mean someone like Haris Sohail (he seems to have good technique and temperament) should have been drafted into the team at least a year ago so he would have enough international exposure before the World Cup. You cannot expect youngsters to just come in and deliver in high stake games. Not everyone is Inzi. And even he failed in the earlier games of the 1992 World Cup but luckily for us came good in the SF and Final when it really mattered.
You often hear people say that Pakistan is blessed with special talent in the field of cricket
While this was probably true in the 80s and 90s, in the last decade or so we have not unearthed a single world class batsman (UA is hit and miss, Azhar, Fawad and Shafiq are decent batsmen, Shehzad has potential) and no world class pace bowlers apart from Aamir and Asif. Both Younis (a test great only) and Misbah made their debuts in 2000/early 2000s. Infact we have not managed to find a bowler even 50% as good as Aamir since 2010, so much so that we are now desperate for him to return to the international team soon after his ban ends in Sep 2015
Re: pakistani people showing anger on tv sets ? damaging their televisions.
remember overall we have whipped you 72 -51, long time before you catch us. So be happy with 6 -0 lead in one segment. The big picture is very depressing for your team.
It's taking us longer to reverse those stats because Pakistan doesn't play much international cricket any more. Just need 22 more games to reverse it, but the rate at which India Pak play against each other it might be another 15 years away. Until then, be happy with the stats [emoji12]
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luTe huye ghar meN TV rakh kar koii karegaa bhii kia? uskaa toR denaa hii bahtareen Hikmat-e-'amali hai :p
tu India main tu koi TV set nahi ho ga? look abhi tak Radwa suntey hain? AKA 71/52 ;)
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hahaha…ham haar ‘dil pe’ nahiiN lete! 
ham true sportsman spirit rakhte haiN magar kia kareN hamaare paRosii apnaa TV set toR Daalte haiN…‘dil pe’ le lete haiN:
“ham ne daaGh daaman pe liyaa hai aur tum ne dil pe” 
TIDE zindabad, daaman ke daaGh dhul jaate haiN magar dil ke daaGh jaan levaa hote haiN!
India 2011 and 2015 world cup Champion!
dil pe na lo, bhaiye! 
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^ 72/51
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It's taking us longer to reverse those stats because Pakistan doesn't play much international cricket any more. Just need 22 more games to reverse it, but the rate at which India Pak play against each other it might be another 15 years away. Until then, be happy with the stats [emoji12]
Pakistan's problems against India are limited to World Cups mainly...Problem is psychological barrier in these games. Not so long ago (2013) Pak won an ODI series in India 2-1 despite the batting (should have won 3-0 but our pathetic batsmen made a mountain out of a seemingly easy chase of 160 odd in the 3rd ODI!)
You will be surprised to know that 72-51 isn't just because of Sharjah. Pak has won more ODI games against India **IN**** India** (Pak 19 - India 11). At home (in Pakistan), Pak has won 14 games and India 11. i.e. Pakistan's win% in India is better than their win % in Pakistan. Also Pak has won more Asia Cup Games than India. I need not mention the Sharjah games...
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India 2011 and 2015 world cup champs!!! 
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Pakistan's problems against India are limited to World Cups mainly...Problem is psychological barrier in these games. Not so long ago (2013/14) Pak won an ODI series in India 2-1 despite the batting (should have won 3-0 but our pathetic batsmen made a mountain out of a seemingly easy chase of 160 odd in the 3rd ODI!)
You will be surprised to know that 72-51 isn't just because of Sharjah. Pak has won more ODI games against India **IN**** India** (Pak 19 - India 11). At home (in Pakistan), Pak has won 14 games and India 11. i.e. Pakistan's win% in India is better than their win % in Pakistan. Also Pak has won more Asia Cup Games than India. I need not mention the Sharjah games...
While quoting these stats, it might be interesting to look at the records of the two teams pre and post 1990s. That's when Indian cricket started changing, and so did Pak cricket albeit in a different direction.
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Most recent bilateral (ODI) series (last decade):
2005 (Played in India): Pak won 4-2
2006 (Pak): India won 4-1
2006 (UAE): Drawn 1-1
2007 (India): India won 3-2
2013 (India): Pak won 2-1
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Not so long ago (2013) Pak won an ODI series in India 2-1 despite the batting (should have won 3-0 but our pathetic batsmen made a mountain out of a seemingly easy chase of 160 odd in the 3rd ODI!)...
In 2013 you could have conquered the world. You had Shoaib Malik.
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Most recent bilateral (ODI) series (last decade):
2005 (Played in India): Pak won 4-2 2006 (Pak): India won 4-1 2006 (UAE): Drawn 1-1 2007 (India): India won 3-2 2013 (India): Pak won 2-1
India has an overwhelming lead of 11 to 10 in this time span. Furthermore, using the EBITDA approach, India pummels Pakistan 8 to 4 in the 2006 - 2007 time frame.
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Most recent bilateral (ODI) series (last decade):
2005 (Played in India): Pak won 4-2 2006 (Pak): India won 4-1 2006 (UAE): Drawn 1-1 2007 (India): India won 3-2 2013 (India): Pak won 2-1
Thanks for pulling this out. As the numbers show, it's no longer 72-51. Infact, India has a slight edge. To go back to my original point, Pakistan might have an edge historically but both teams have evolved (in different directions) so quoting numbers dating back to 1970s is meaningless now.