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Then read. He set up: the Pakistan Institute of Nuclear Science and Technology and the ICTP.
Its amazing how people just parrot on the same thing without reading what is truly done and what has been done.
That link is amazing more importantly on how the Government and various people from Pakistan continued to work with Dr. Salam regardless of that he left the country by choice.
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good for him or probably he had been burn alive.
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Strictly speaking, there was another nobel laureate from lahore. Har Gobind Khorana, though migrated to US long ago, is never discussed.
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good for him or probably he had been burn alive.
In other words not Pakistan's fault at all that he left. He turned his back on the country. Others from his faith have not done so.
And I had never heard of Har Gobind Khorana. Thanks that would be an interesting read.
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Sir ji he wanted the ITCP in Pakistan and not in Italy … he left by choice coz the country gave him no choice to continue the research at a high level
How many research institutes do we have in Pakistan that r renowned by their high standards and Scientists all over the world aspire to come there for research … that’s the point
But it’s not only about him or “PPL of his faith” … how come there are thousands of Pakistani students/scientist going abroad for advancing in their respecting field (no harm in doing that) but hardly any one returns … question: why is that ???
As i posted earlier its about priorities
About Har Gobind Khorana:
He was born in Raipur, Khanewal, British India (Todays Pakistan). However i don’t know if he returned to India/Pakistan post partition.
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Interesting. It is Pakistans fault at all times. Talk about rose tinted glasses. Also do tell me why he was not allowed to continue his research? He left in 1974. Well before Zia came to power. So what stopped him from continuing his work in Pakistan?
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Interesting. It is Pakistans fault at all times. Talk about rose tinted glasses. Also do tell me why he was not allowed to continue his research? He left in 1974. Well before Zia came to power. So what stopped him from continuing his work in Pakistan?
I Told u why he left.
I mentioned the thousands of PAKISTANI Students who go abroad, study, do well but don't return. I question the priorities in this country set by whom (we all know) and ur reply is "Talk about rose tinted glass".
Ah' i c it's a futile attempt but yet u helped me learn a thing or two so i'm grateful to u and rest my case.
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No you said the country gave him no chance to continue research at a higher level. I want to ask you how did the country stop him from doing so? Its as simple as that. You make a claim. Back it up. Also regarding his research centre, how did the country stop him from opening up such a centre in Pakistan?
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No you said the country gave him no chance to continue research at a higher level. I want to ask you how did the country stop him from doing so? Its as simple as that. You make a claim. Back it up. Also regarding his research centre, how did the country stop him from opening up such a centre in Pakistan?
I forgot he was a millionaire who wanted to spend his money in Europe/USA rather than Pakistan ..... After he and PPL of Faith were declared Non-Muslim he was bared from entering socalled Muslim countries (Apart from Iran and Kuwait non gave anything) ..... thus no collection of Funds or did Gov. of Pakistan said sure stay here we'll finance ur plans ?????
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Sarcasm only shows you can't answer the question. That is it. He came back to Pakistan in 1960. He left again in 1974. During those 14 years he was in very senior high ranking government positions which would have easily allocated him the clout and support he needed. Also Dr. Salam could not have gotten any support from Italy or the UK? No that would have been to easy. You are basically saying the only source of income he had for his research center would come from Muslim countries. Why is that? The other 150 countries in the world don't count?
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For him scientific research or seek of knowledge was an obligation for a Muslim … so whom else to ask but the Muslim countries … he not only wanted that but to also that every Muslim country set up a special Fund or Part of its budget for research so the Muslim world can catch up with the wetsern worlds … countries in far-east or far-west of us reached high standards yet we r still left fighting Load Shedding 
Ever spent a thought for whom he wanted to set up the Institute ???
Those countries who had/have the money are giving it to Pakistan and for what purpose … yeah u can read it daily in the papers
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Again a tangent and not answering my question. He worked in the UK and Italy. He got his Nobel Prize for his work in Italy. So it would have been very easy to get funding from similar institutes or donors to set up the research center Pakistan.
Here is the crux of the matter. You are parroting on and on about something you have no understanding over. You have no clue why he didn't set up the institute. You have no clue if the government supported him or did not. You have no clue why he did not get any funding for the research center. You have no clue why for the 14 years he was in the country building our nuclear programme, setting up research wings in our universities he did not establish is own.
What you are doing instead is harping on a matter you have not even the basic understanding of and yet claiming discrimination.
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Again a tangent and not answering my question. He worked in the UK and Italy. He got his Nobel Prize for his work in Italy. So it would have been very easy to get funding from similar institutes or donors to set up the research center Pakistan.
Here is the crux of the matter. You are parroting on and on about something you have no understanding over. You have no clue why he didn't set up the institute. You have no clue if the government supported him or did not. You have no clue why he did not get any funding for the research center. You have no clue why for the 14 years he was in the country building our nuclear programme, setting up research wings in our universities he did not establish is own.
What you are doing instead is harping on a matter you have not even the basic understanding of and yet claiming discrimination.
Then grace me with all ur knowledge ..... u can claim whatever u want and portray it the way u want it won't change historical facts
BTW i posted the link to the Video and wrote "for those interessted in it" ..... it must be quite painful for u for what he was but hey Good luck with ur rant
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No knowledge nor do I claim to have any. What I am merely stating is that if you seek to claim discrimination based on faith please have all the facts to back it up. Because up till now you have proven you don't know why he didn't set up a research institute in Pakistan. And that is main focus of all the discrimination charges against the Pakistani government.
The facts are that he was awarded 3 of our highest civilian awards by 3 different governments. He worked for 14 years in the country at key high level posts and left by choice. Those are the facts.
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^ i think for Dr. Abdus Salam all those Awards didn't meant that much but rather his try to set up research institute in Pakistan and/or other Muslim and/or 3rd world country ..... that's why he went to different head of states
IMHO: The best tribute to any scientist is to continue his work and Abdus Salam wanted it to be done in Pakistan
Whatever US does on government level is irrelavant ...... it's more the opportunities that r offered to brilliant minds or why do u think thousands from sub continent try to get access to these institutions
Well as far as Abdul Salam is concerned he faced some problems due to him being a qadiyani but if you see how overall we treat our heroes it's more or the less the same. We had jahangir and jansher khans who lead the world of squash for decades but hen they retired we forgot them, a couple of month back I was reading somewhere that international squash federation gave jahangir an important post, but Pakistan squash federation couldn't utilize these legends for improving the game in Pakistan.
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But it's not only about him or "PPL of his faith" ..... how come there are thousands of Pakistani students/scientist going abroad for advancing in their respecting field (no harm in doing that) but hardly any one returns ..... question:
About Har Gobind Khorana: He was born in Raipur, Khanewal, British India (Todays Pakistan). However i don't know if he returned to India/Pakistan post partition.
Well the reason why most of Pakistani students/professionals leave the country is due to economic reasons and better opportunities. There is a lot of joblessness in Pakistan (many engineers are sitting without jobs), inflation is going up and the salaries are low. In these circumstances if anyone who will find a better avenue will leave, and that has nothing to do with the religion. Now this phenomena has two aspects, one Pakistan loses skilled professionals but on the other hand they get foreign exchange through them. Tomorrow hopefully when the situation in Pakistan will improve some of those foreign trained professionals might return which will again be beneficial for the country.