Pakistan puppet masters guide the Taliban killers

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Not possible. They have many other things to do

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The fact that pakistan was interested to build the gawadar port which would have brought much needed economic boom & stability to Pakistan made india roll on flames. So, first they tried to exploit dubai government against Pakistan's decision by making them feel miserable that development of gawadar port would have adverse effects on dubai port. So, dubai government kept Pakistan from developing gawadar for years.

Now during this time, they have also encited US to taking control over gawadar & the 2 gold mines in baloushistan by successfully creating a paranoia about Pak-china & pak-iran relations. The lucifier's agents (indians) working for the US intelligence have successfully exploited the higher up authorities to keep a check on china & iran & they have decided to do that through taking control of part of balouchistan. That stretegic action comes with a bonus - gawadar port & 2 gold mines of balouchistan.

have I not been warning the world to beware of these lucifier's agents? They are so bitter & desperate to burn the whole world if it does not brings what they desire. Right now, they are making US go after Pakistan's stability & assets because they themselves do not have ****s to do that to Pakistan. They want to keep coming across as the most peace-desiring, friendly, unharmful 'desis' & project image of an angel while the truth is that it is india which is making US military-intelligence higher up officials so paranoid about Pakistan.

Ofcourse there are stupid & naiive people in the US military & intelligence just like there are stupid people in Pak military-intelligence who do not understand the real indian game of manipulation which they are playing with so many nations around the world against each other.

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Simple. Raw and Mosad are doing better because the both are run by civilians.

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BBC had a similar article on this.

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** Portion of article from above link**

Pakistani intelligence gives funding, training and sanctuary to the Afghan Taliban on a scale much larger than previously thought, a report says.

Taliban field commanders interviewed for the report suggested that ISI intelligence agents even attend Taliban supreme council meetings.

Support for the Afghan Taliban was "official ISI policy", the London School of Economics (LSE) authors suggest.

Pakistan's military denied the claims.

A spokesman said the allegations were "rubbish" and part of a malicious campaign against the country's military and security agencies.

The LSE report comes at the end of one of the deadliest weeks for Nato troops in Afghanistan, with more than 30 soldiers killed.

'Double game'

Links between the Taliban and Pakistan's intelligence service have long been suspected, but the report's author - Harvard analyst Matt Waldman - says there is real evidence of extensive co-operation between the two.

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There is thus a strong case that the ISI orchestrates, sustains and shapes the overall insurgent campaign
Matt Waldman

Report author
"This goes far beyond just limited, or occasional support," he said. "This is very significant levels of support being provided by the ISI.

"We're also saying this is official policy of that agency, and we're saying that it is very extensive. It is both at an operational level, and at a strategic level, right at the senior leadership of the Taliban movement."

Mr Waldman spoke to nine Taliban field commanders in Afghanistan earlier this year.

Some alleged that ISI agents had even attended meetings of the Taliban's top leadership council, the so-called Quetta shura. They claim that by backing the insurgents Pakistan's security service is trying to undermine Indian influence in Afghanistan

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could this just be another attempt at destroying pakistan image, whatever is left of it...

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Damn straight it is. They pick and choose what to believe from the Taliban. When the Taliban claim they killed 10 Americans they deny it and no one cares. But if they say the ISI supports them they are ready to believe them.

Its amazing. The rose tinted glasses these assholes wear are typical of anybody who is a so called expert in the region.

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I remember MI6 came up with a dossier too some years ago that that had undisputed evidence of Iraq's WMD. How credible can this report by some academic in LSE can be :P

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Now that is reality. Good to see the Guardian always presenting the truth and not stupidity like other media outlets.

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im afraid this time, all you guys with your blind patriotism (not that you as patriotic as it seems but its just the result of being on a site such as gupshup which is pakistan specific) have mis-read the entire situation.

on the ground in af/pak, there is, within the talib circles, a huge dislike for pakistans role in this war of terror. by using and exagerating the impression of being used by pakistan, the article hopes to create further mis-trust between the afghan talib ranks.

for proof of the dislike for pakistan coming from otherside of the khyber pass can be heard from pakistani general when they talk about why afghan talibs have not taken up arms against pak - they say 'wo hume majburistan kehte hain' and ' wo humse ab baat sahi nahi karte magar'

also the article helps to weaken the basis for the moral position of the ttp-mehsud - atleast in the eyes of people like us

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Exactly, like I said before Zardari moves around in a huge convoy, it is not like he could hide in the back of a taxi to secretly visit the jail.

In addition, Zardari hates the Taliban for obvious reasons, and they hate him.

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Not to discount your theory right off the bat, but how do you know this to be a fact?

Nobody supports the kafirs in the TTP-Mehsud. Those *******s are killing innocent people.

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cm just remember ttp-mehsud are NOT the ONLY ones killing innocent people.

but obviously who and what is innocent has already been identified in your mind, and for that reason you find yourself in an opposite camp to the taliban inc ttp-mehsud

'kafir' is a religious term, and where in islam does it support the position of pakistan? if you are against talibs and ttp-mehsud, its best you leave religious terms alone. the religious domain is not kind to pakistans position. your avatar can be seen to signify rape of the believers so obviously a messer (to say the least). you shouldnt try to make up religion by yourself either

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So? That doesn't make them right more importantly they are propagating a fake version of Islam where suicide is seen as a positive action. It is haram.

The TTP is by no means an Islamic entity as they actively support and implement the killing of muslims.

As for my avatar, it is very interesting. It shows a very interesting insight to the psyche of the individual. While I see it as simple as that a woman is still a woman in a burqa, and the notion of the french that a woman is imprisoned when in a burqa is false. You consider it rape of believers.

The fact that you took to such a sexual level is an issue you have to deal with not I.

The TTP kills Muslims. It kills Pakistanis. I hope all those ****ers rot in hell.

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well. a woman is still a women in burqa but to try to sexualise the image is absurd. oh wait, how bad of me, the image is not sexualised? yeah? islam supports such back handed tactics for the acceptence of the burqa!? (naudhubillah)

and i cant for sure say who will and who wont be in hell but i dont think any of the talib groups will be one of them. they fight for shariah you see, it makes them shaheed if they die and mujahadeen if they live.

as for suicides, the islamic world missed its chance to denounce it back in the day. now its come to pakistan and the pakistanis says its unislamic. although i do know suicides are haraam and do not know their status when used in warlike situations, i do know muslim communities which have had to use a tactic have been neglected by the ummah. thats also a fault of the ummah and in this case a fault of pakistan

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Suicide is haram...period!!! no justification what so ever, please do so through Quran and Hadeeth!!!

islam says that killing one innocent is equivalent to killing the humanity...and this is for humans not muslims or non muslims...

islam also says that during war, the women, children, elderly of kuffar should be left alone, and not killed, but during this war most of the people being killed are innocents...

the TTP is not innocent, they have blood of pakistanis on their hands...

for TTP, every one in Pakistan is a kafir except those retards who follow their ideology, i have seen these people very closely during my university days...

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islam says that killing one innocent is equivalent to killing the humanity...and this is for humans not muslims or non muslims...
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true, and that one person was killed in 2001 by the northern alliance or the americans!

look how as a tactic pak/US forces are killing, and rules of islam are only pushed on a tribal people. so it must be concluded that you guys are making it up as you go along (i know you are) but the goalposts of islam dont move for your non islamic political interests. and by only expecting and vehemently pushing islamic laws (those which suit your purpose) only on the tribal people, it must be concluded that islamic compliance is only reserved for them in your eyes.

WOT is ok polically for a secular mindset. its only when islam is in the picture that the talibs inc ttp-mehsud start winning the moral battle, and win they do, emphatically and outright.

so if you say no to WOT in afghanistan, say no to WOT in pakistan aswell. its the same people living on both sides of the border. the mehsuds have cousins in different parts of afghanistan. i mean are you going to have a big hug on the durrand line when the americans have finnished their campaign and pakistan has finnished its own!? its a conspiracy to do the whole job against a group of muslims! yes now, with that inmind, go to religion to see what it says about fellow believers!

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You are supporting suicide attacks against Pakistanis? Essentially that is what you are saying.

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Anwer, looking at pakistan's civilian population's 'lifestyle', I think I understand the decision of no civilian intelligence agencies. The price of our present anchors / spies is quite low. Imagine a civilian Pakistani spy, I guess his price would be ticket to a bollysh!t theater?

But still, I think, there is a possibility of finding & recruiting serious civilians who are strictly loyal & patriotic to Pakistan by choice & not by majburi. Maybe Pakistan should consider taking intelligence advice from such civilians. Maybe that would help.

And shard, what a retarded comment. You mean, if enemy invades your home, you just sit there quietly & watch him taking over your home or throw you out of your own home? I think that is the only scenario where suicide is allowed to stop the enemy.

What TTP has caused in Pakistan is totally offensive. They send men to blow themselves up only for the purpose of taking lives of people in the same home (Pakistan). In other words, these people being killed in the bomb blasts are not invaders but the part of the same family. They have not caused any offensive against whoever is killing them. How can anyone have a doubt that it is not a sin?

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The enemy wanted to take the benefit of media war against Zardari. There is also a report on Daily Jang about declaring Zardari a US citizen by a U S site.

President Zardari US Citizen?