Re: Pakistan or Pornistan?
Yaar TLK, from what I have noticed is chatting stays on the top of the list for Pakistani Internet users.
Number of porn searchers is definitely not as high as described in this Fox "news" item. Its exaggeration with a power of 10 or something.
Purpose? Keep this country on American people's radar and keep reminding them what an "evil" this nation is.
Re: Pakistan or Pornistan?
I saw this news abt a day back on a local daily here.
TLKJiii,let me ask you one question…
How does this news matter?How is it going to affect pakistan in anyway?
I think more people will start searching for porns on net after this news. 
Yaar TLK, from what I have noticed is chatting stays on the top of the list for Pakistani Internet users.
Number of porn searchers is definitely not as high as described in this Fox "news" item. Its exaggeration with a power of 10 or something.
Purpose? Keep this country on American people's radar and keep reminding them what an "evil" this nation is.
I pretty much agree with everything you said here DW.
I saw this news abt a day back on a local daily here.
TLKJiii,let me ask you one question...
But how does this news matter?How is it going to affect pakistan in anyway?
You are right, it does not matter Arle. Its not going to affect Pakistan in anyways. Its just a piece of news I guess that I posted for the sake of discussion,
yaar khudaa ke waastay, tum ne kiya thekaa liyaa hua hai 14 crore awaam kaa. Bhai meray majority of Pakistani are sweet people but jo ghalat hain oon ko ghalat kehnay main koi harj nahi hai yaar.
Pakistanis are as good and as bad as other people. I really don't claim us to be in anyway special.
I never argued that Pakistanis never go to any porn site. The point was just that those statistics are flawed which call Pakistan Pornistan based on it being no. 1 in vulgar websearchs.
One of my Chinese colleague was laughing at me saying that even though Pak claims to be a religious country, but it is no. 1 in porn searches. It felt like I was indirectly being accused of the same.
And if fabricated news items like this continue then it may very well become a stereotype of Pakistanis.
Re: Pakistan or Pornistan?
Pakistanis are as good and as bad as other people. I really don't claim us to be in anyway special. I never argued that Pakistanis never go to any porn site. The point was just that those statistics are flawed which call Pakistan Pornistan based on it being no. 1 in vulgar websearchs. One of my Chinese colleague was laughing at me saying that even though Pak claims to be a religious country, but it is no. 1 in porn searches. It felt like I was indirectly being accused of the same. And if fabricated news items like this continue then it may very well become a stereotype of Pakistanis.
Well said.
Among so many other stereotypes..:(
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Mian jab asal main khoti, Kuti billi aur Bakri nahi chorty Pakistani tu Web search kiya mushkil hai??? **
**As I have told you wa waqya from 80s when a person was having SEX in fields on back side of my grand Ma’s neighbor house and Yes NOW! I do remember near our colony there was a kachi abadi once my brothers were laughing out loud and I have heard that they an dtheir friends were talking that in Kachi Abadi one teen age boy started Making LOve with a ***
onstars logo had hai) (Dog’s real female)I mean asli kutti main kisi khatoon ko gali nahui de rahi ok and Kutti locked him at the end and he started screaming with pain or may be with fear but not with shame though and all family and muhalla came to know the incident.And there finding was kutti sex kerty akhir main lock laga lyti hai and still I want to know what kind of lock and how it hurts the MAN:( If you haven’t heard these kind of real life experience of others you can’t say this is not possible.
Even read Fiqah of ABU HANIFA I called him Numan he is saying if a person do SEX with Khoti, Kuti aur Bakri these animals need to be killed and that man just take a bath. Abbey qatal kero tu bechari femal janwar hi kion woh banda kion nahi Numan sahab:konfused:
Kisi number per tu hongey na Pakistani??? Aur shaid kisi Pakistani ne hi yeh herkat ki hu ke " Bad nam agar hon gey tu kiya naam na huga:aq:"
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Toba toba, kuch to sharam karo GN, :D
Ju kerty hain woh sharam na kerin ham kahtey hoey kion sharam kerin aur sachey waqyat hain ju bata rahi hon:aq:
Re: Pakistan or Pornistan?
goodnews, I know there are perverts in Pakistan, but then there are perverts in every country. There is no reason to single out Pakistan.
When someone says that Pakistan is no. 1 in searching terms like "horse sex" and "donkey sex" then it implies that percentage of Pakistanis who are into animal sex is higher than the rest of the world.
Do you really believe most of us like to have animal sex? Would you be ok if this becomes YOUR stereotype?
There are 1.5 to 1.8 billion Internet users worldwide and Pakistan has only 5 to 8 million Internet users, less than 0.5% of global users and Internet penetration is less than 5% of total population, Wahajus Siraj, spokesman for Internet Service Providers Association of Pakistan (ISPAK), said in a statement issued here on Friday.
The FOXNews story refers to Google Insights and Google Trends, he said, adding, Google Trends shows the searches coming from countries as well as their cities. In some searches like “how to make bomb”, New Zealand ranks No 1 and one of its cities is at No 2. This shows that if a country is ranking number one in a global search, some its cities should also be among top ranking cities. But if someone searched “horse sex” as reported in the story, Pakistan is at the top whereas none of Pakistani city is among the top ten. Similarly if someone tries all other words reported in the story, Pakistan comes on top but its cities don’t come on the top 10. This means that this data is badly managed and fabricated.
He said that if one goes to Google Insight and uses key porn words as mentioned in the story, Pakistan comes on the top. But if word “optical fiber” is typed, Pakistan also comes at No 2. Not many Internet users even know what fiber optic means and have little interest in it. Similarly, if word “missile” is typed, Pakistan again comes on the top. For word “nuclear”, Pakistan is on top again. For word laser printer, Pakistan is on sixth ranking and for “wimax”, Pakistan is on 4th number.
Anyone having little knowledge can understand that not many Pakistanis would be using these sophisticated and high tech searches. This means that data and analysis of Google is false and not correct.
Now if someone is searching Google for a particular porn website, the user must be viewing that site. If websites with key words reported in the FOX story are searched in the Google and then their names are matched from the Google’s own record of users accessing that site from a particular country, those websites are not accessed from Pakistan but from the USA and other countries.
The data from another renowned ranking site, alexa.com, that ranks top sites accessed from a country does not show any pornographic site among top 40 websites frequently accessed from Pakistan. Top website accessed from Pakistan is Google, followed by Youtube, Facebook and others.
Siraj said: “We demand an immediate apology from FOXNews for exploiting the data to let 170 million Pakistani people down as part of wicked campaign against Pakistan and also from Google on showing these wrong statistics and to correct its indexing.
One of my Chinese colleague was laughing at me saying that even though Pak claims to be a religious country, but it is no. 1 in porn searches. It felt like I was indirectly being accused of the same. .
aray meri jaan yehi to main bhee keh rahaa hoon. True or not true, the news is the matter of embarrassment and even a concern. Waisay yaar, koi aise hee ungli nahi uthaa detaa, kaheen tou kuch sach bhee hotaa hai naa. I also feel very uncomfortable that whenever we see the name of our country in world media, its usually about something negative. So what is the solution? World is not going to stop. Somehow we may need to fix few things our self to get rid of this (false) image.
goodnews, I know there are perverts in Pakistan, but then there are perverts in every country.
So true!
For example the spread of sick Child pornography despite hardest of the punishments or brother and sister marrying in-officially and having kids. Father raping daughter (really frequency of such news is almost every week in Germany).
In 70s there was this movement in Germany where people were advocating living naturally i.e. promoting sexual relationship between siblings..
So perverts are everywhere...
In 70s there was this movement in Germany where people were advocating living naturally i.e. promoting sexual relationship between siblings..
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That is sick.
slowly but surely, zamaana-e-jahiliyat returns.
I also feel very uncomfortable that whenever we see the name of our country in world media, its usually about something negative. So what is the solution? World is not going to stop. Somehow we may need to fix few things our self to get rid of this (false) image.
The other day I was watching one very interesting research program where they were discussing the scientific evidence for the positive psychological impact of self belief.
So to summarize in two sentences: Change starts from within, first of all start truly believing that your country is one of the greatest places on earth. That will boost your moral and give you a very strong motivation to achieve this goal.
Don't read too much into these news, the purpose of which is nothing more but to demoralize a whole nation by playing negative psychological tricks.
Try it, it will help. It helped me, :)
Here the English version of the story:
The Sexual Revolution and Children
How the Left Took Things Too Far
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Pantomiming Intercourse
The educators’ notes indicate that they placed a very strong emphasis on sex education. Almost every day, the students played games that involved taking off their clothes, reading porno magazines together and pantomiming intercourse.
*According to the records, a “sex exercise” was conducted on Dec. 11 and a "***ing hour" on Jan. 14. An entry made on Nov. 26 reads: “In general, by lying there we repeatedly provoked, openly or in a hidden way, sexual innuendoes, which were then expressed in pantomimes, which Kurt and Rita performed together on the low table (as a stage) in front of us.”
*The material introduced the broader public to a byproduct of the student movement for the first time: the sexual liberation of children. Besser passed on the reports to an editor at the West Berlin newspaper *Der Abend, who published excerpts of the material. On April 7, 1970, the Berlin state parliament discussed the Rote Freiheit after-school center. As it turned out, the Psychology Institute at the Free University of Berlin was behind the center. In fact, the institute had established the facility and provided the educators who worked there. Besser now believes that it was a concerned employee who dropped off the reports at her door…"
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*ssue 17 of the cultural magazine *Kursbuch, published in June 1969, described the revolutionaries’ position in practical terms. Published by German author Hans Magnus Enzensberger, the issue contained a report by the members of Commune 2 in Berlin, titled “Educating Children in the Commune.” In the summer of 1967, three women and four men moved into an apartment in an old building on Giesebrechtstrasse, together with two small children, a three-year-old girl, Grischa, and a four-year-old boy, Nessim. For the residents, the cohabitation experiment was an attempt to overcome all bourgeois constraints, which included everything from separate bank accounts and closed bathroom doors to fidelity within couples and the development of feelings of shame. The two children were raised by the group, which often meant that no one paid much attention to them. Because the adults had made it their goal to not just “tolerate but in fact affirm child sexuality,” they were not satisfied to simply act as passive observers. …
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The article is quite long, but shows truly that there are shameless perverts everywhere!
BTW “Der Spiegel” is something like “New York Times” of Germany.
Re: Pakistan or Pornistan?
In civilized world, all type of pornography and material related to any type of pornography is available in any kind of possible format and the kids they experience their first sex at the age of 14 and 15. Where quite a few girls get pregnant in High schools and almost everyone is educated about protection in special sex education classes...so I believe their desire to search for sex dies when they can experience it every night......................and the sole purpose of this research is to demoralize Pak nation................where Pak nation stood united against Google, Yahoo & Facebook for their hypocrisy..........
hypocrisy:hmmm:hypocrisy** Kiya unhon ne burai ke andaz man bat ki hai Ya sirf statistics dikhai hain??? West Berhti hoi teen age pregnancies ke barey main on ka apna Media aur agencies statistics paish kerti hain ya EAST?? Muaf kijiey ga Hypocrisy woh hai jab sab kam chupa ker kerty hain aur aur awam o khwas main osi kam ki burai bhi kerty hain. WEST waley ju ker rahy hain khulam khula woh hypocrisy ke zumrey main nahi atta hamrey Pakistan and Islami mulkon main sab hota hai aur ham chupaney main izat o shan samjhty hain yeh Hypocrisy hoti aur kehlati hai.
App ke Imam Abu Haneefa for me Just Numan ( Imamon ka iNkar ALLAH KA inkar nahi hai yeh mera Iman hai chahey wajib-ul-qatal thehron) Ok Numan kis zamany ki paidiaish tha? Os zamany ka ftwa hai ke agar merd Bakri ke sath sex/make love kery tu os bakri ko filfor mar diy ajaey aur os Bakri ki Qurbani jaiz nahi(bechari Bakri) cheelon kawon ko khilana bhi jaiz aur mustahib nahi. Aur merd ke liey Ghusal wajib hai:rotfl: Ghusal ki itni ahmyiat hai Ab batao os zamany main kisi ne kiya hu ga aisa tu swal utha thana:aq: Woh ty Hippocratic nahi they SAHIH MUSLIM they os zamany ke?
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On kemuashrey main hota hai woh kehty aur iqrar tu kerty hain na?? Hamrey muashrey mainhota hai aur ham IQrar bhi nahi kerna chaty yeh Benazeer Bhtu wali policy her waqat ke liey sahih nahi jahan kis masley per ghor ker ke os se bachao ki tarkeeb kerni chahey wahan ham Kabotar ki trha Ankhain band aur shutar Murgh ki trha gardan rait main dab adaity hain.
Manto aur Arsh Sidiqi ki kahanion per aytbar nahi kerti thi main jab real life stories mery samney aain tu main kehny per majbor hoi waqai ju tehzeeb hai hi nangi osey yeh kion choli pehnaty:hmmm:**
I have heard a woman crying that her real mother is involved in sex with daughter’s husband ( And in book that was in Arsh Sidiqui’s *Baher Kafan se paon
*In real life my Grand mom’s maid servant’s grand father molested her and and she became pregnant at the age of only 12:( and they did not rijam that lanti grand pa but married that poor girl to a 60 years old man who died after giving her 12 or may be more children and one of her son raped his own sister and they were saying “Wa NASY MAIN THA”:smack: Only one son was nyk and he died in very early age when I was in Pakistan in 2008:( She also died 4 years ago aur tum kehty hu ham Pakistani tu dhoodh ke dhuly hain???
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