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**your choice of words is unacceptable (mullah tullah, halwa khors etc). If you want to participate in this thread, tone down your anger a bit and rephrase* - 5Abi
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Hey man! why to shoot the messenger? Here is the "rephrased" post.
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*Originally posted by irem: *
Khilafat Movement [1919-1924]
......... This unity [between Bharatia Nationalists such as Azad & Gohars and Nehru-Gandhi cabal] reached its climax during the Khilafat and the Non-Cooperation Movements.
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Khalifay movement was an utter disaster. Bharati-Nationalist-Mullahs declared Gandhi "Ameer-ul-Momineen" and then got the Indian Muslims gored in the back.
Gandhi used Bharati-Nationalist-Muslims for his nefarious purposes and then left them high and dry.
**Jinnah, Lajpat Rai, and Ch. Fazal Hussain opposed **this movement a-la Khalifay and they were kicked out of INC annual meeting.
950 Mullahs said Lubbaik to Gandhi and thus led to utter destruction of educated Muslims of Indian subcontinent. The resulting loss of educated Muslims had long-term ill effects on Punjab and Sindh.
wow Irem! this thread is undoubtedly one of GSs bestest of the best ever! :k:
some excellent research and hardwork!
any one taking a pakistan studies exam anytime soon should just read the whole thread top to bottom a few times and you’re bound to pass with good grades
Harris yaar u r the best. thanks for ur appreciation. waise mein ne koi research nai kee sara kuch website se chaapa hae lekin thanks for liking n for ur reply
A very good summary from a Pakistani perspective - a little biased but then we like it that way !!
However one thing that annoys me is that we have completely forgotten Ch Rehmat Ali's contribution in all this. He did not merely name Pakistan, but actually came up with the idea!
Allama Iqbal actually did not propose Pakistan in his Allahabad address- his idea was to have a federation of states within India. He is quoted to have said "do not link me with this Pakistan movement".
Ch Rehmat Ali was at Cambridge at the time. He liked Iqbal's idea and expanded it. He drew up many maps and wrote many papers on Pakistan. His dream was not limited to Pakistan- on his maps, he had banglistan, Hyderabad, Usmanistan etc etc. He actually met with Jinnah during the round table conferences and proposed his Pakistan idea but Jinnah dismissed it as a student's dream.
Later on in 1940, the then governor of Punjab made sure that Ch Rehmat Ali could not enter Lahore on 23rd March (I read somewhere). After Pakistan's creation, Ch Rehmat Ali went to Pakistan but was treated very badly by the authorities so much so that he left and spent the rest of his life in Cambridge. I think the muslim league leadership felt threatened by him somehow. He was not happy with Jinnah's Pakistan anyway as he felt that the creation of Pakistan had betrayed all the other muslims. His dream was to have a number of muslim majority states, not just pakistan.
It was only after his death that it was made public that he named Pakistan. At that time, the government said that they would excavate his remains and make a tomb for him in Pakistan. Obviously that promise was forgotton soon and he still lays in a graveyard in Cambridge. His last days were very lonely in a nursing home.
Now 57 years later, we should also give this man his due credit in the creation of Pakistan.
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*Originally posted by digitalsurgeon: *
^ we can not seprate islam from government, enuf has been said on that already.
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Off course not! But we can certainly kick the Mullah-Aya-Tullah cabal out of the mainstream society. Let them enjoy their hujra and tasbeeh. Down with Mullah vandalism.
1857 huh? Well hell why don't we just take it back to the Jurassic Era?? Because as we all know, even the Muslim Dinosaurs thousands of years ago wanted to seperate and have their own country [Pakistan] from the Hindus.
Is that what you're gonna tell me? That even the Dinosaurs wanted Pakistan?...riiiiggght...
Your description on Moplah riot in Nilambur,Kerala is absolutely wrong when the histroy states that it was purely a frame work of muslim religious fanatics plotting a large plan to extinct Hindu population from malabar region.
It was some fanatic muslim learders who plotted carnages through the Malabar area and they succeded to some distance in that direction.During that dreadful time many hindus were killed,hindu homes were ransacked ,women and girls were raped,bodies mutilated and many temples were destroyed by the rioters.The hindus,who had been spread and not unified ,finally came together and started retaliating.
Also the defended hindu population was supported by the British army and their Gurkha wing and thanks to some amazing display of operation by the Gurkha wing of the British wing ,that finally stormed the THIROOR MOSQUE and killed many hooligans and rioters.
One can still see the remnants of that riot even today when passes through the interior villages of the Eranadu(Malabar region).Most of the population is muslim and most of theirs ancestors were forcefully converted to islam.
But the greater side of this riot is,Hindu community rose like anything and today in the Malabar region,one can see not much caste differences exist in hindu community there.Thanks to some of the finest organiosational activities by R.S.S and V.H.P .Despite the heavy muslim population around, the Hindu community keeps its identity there.
lekin thanks for liking n for ur reply 
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