Pakistan epicenter of world terrorism - Indian PM

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Your sense of logic and reason needs some working ......

Varun Gandhi is "claimed" to have made a statement that he would kill ...... he is in prison ....

Every week there are actual killing of innocents in Pakistan by groups which are known and whose leaders are known .... these guys are moving around freely .....

Who is supporting terrorism ?????

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This is the stupidest statement from an otherwise decent man-mohan. This perhaps is the handiwork of some pathetic-baboo from Indian Phoren ministry.

The reality is that Pakistan is the last line of defense against the terrorism. And unfortunately Indians have always tried to damage this important line.

Sure Pakistan had its hands in the Kashmir pot. But that is not being epicenter. There are 100's of "freedom struggles" going on around the world that are supported by the West and others. Do you think anyone supporting freedom struggle is automatically an epicenter of terror? Heck no!

The real epicenters of terror are Afghanistan, Iran, Wahabi-Arabs in the gulf + Saudi, and North Korea who are either creating terror, or funding it.

Indians will never realize that when they spit on Pakistani face, they spit on themselves in the process.

This is the time that Indians realize the importance of Pakistan and get their $hite out of Afghani mess. You will soon see the positive impact on the region.

Aahm Aahm. FYI. Pakistani army helped to kick out Palestinian terrorists. Jordanians including the King were wrapped around Zia-ul-Haq's legs crying "save us save us".

Then again Pakistani army helped kick out Commie terrorists.

Even now, the West needs to show their real commitment to Afghanistan and Pak army will kick the terrorist again.

The problem with you Westerners and west-wanna-bees is that you all have poor memories. Had the West not cut and run from Afghanistan in the 1990s, Pakistan would have helped you out with full might.

Unfortunately West is again showing weak knees by not supporting Prez Obama. How come Europeans not sending 50,000 troops to fight Taliban in Afghanistan?

Pakistan will take care of its mess, but why are you all hell bent on keeping the Afghani cancer alive by not giving it the "full dose" of "medicine"?

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AB bhaijan I am working very hard on my reasoning skills and would love to learn from a genius like you..

As far as Mr. Punjabee is concerned we had a strong debate on the matter where he refused to condemn Mr. Varun...pls go and check Varun Gandhi thread in world affairs..

As far as killing of innocent Pakistanis is concerned thanks for endorsing my point which proves Pakistan is a victim of terrorism...

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Yes Pakistani’s are suffering from terrorism … no one can doubt that … but at the same time you have to see who is responsible for it … now people in the governemnt are also saying it … time for “some” people of Pakistan to wake up and realise it !!!

Pakistan must stop Afghan interference: NWFP Minister

Talibanisation is a ‘foreign-funded agenda supported by Pakistani agencies which has facilitated blood bath across Pakistan.’

DAWN.COM | - NWFP | Pakistan must stop Afghan interference: NWFP Minister

Be-wajah
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Gooooooood luck you gona need it :D

Learning to be creative
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Re: Pakistan epicenter of world terrorism - Indian PM

Indis, USA, Afghanistan,UK and pretty much everyone else knows and have said Pakistan is the epicenter of terrorism with government agencies supporting the terrorists. Yesterday's senate hearings dealt in detail about this.

Pakistanis know this too but for obvious reasons won't admit it. 5th Amendment you see.

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Genius. Pure genius. Don't ever sleep that we may miss out on the prophetic mutterings.

Do you ever think twice (outside the numb-minded indian-nationalist rhetoric), that

a country receives $billions

------ for "fighting the terror", and

------ not by "creating the terror".

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The numb nuts who were giving these billions of $$$ have realized it … about time you also wake up

Levin: No US aid until Pakistan takes on militants

The Associated Press: Levin: No US aid until Pakistan takes on militants

WASHINGTON (AP) — Pakistan must prove it is willing to take on extremists within its own borders before the U.S. delivers financial aid or weapons to the government there, a key senator said Tuesday.
Sen. Carl Levin, chairman of the Armed Services Committee, said he does not believe the United States can buy stability in Pakistan.
And he said he’d support economic and military aid only after he sees that the Pakistani government understands that it is in its own interest to battle its internal insurgent threats. So far, he said, he is not convinced.
“If I thought we could buy stability, I would buy it,” the Michigan Democrat told reporters during a breakfast meeting. “I have no reluctance in purchasing stability if it’s effective. But I don’t think it’s effective unless the recipient of the support sees where the threat is to them. I think otherwise it can backfire.”
Levin’s stance signals some difficulties for the Obama administration’s plans to provide at least $1.5 billion in aid to Pakistan.
President Barack Obama endorsed the aid last week as he unveiled his new strategy for the war in Afghanistan, but he also cautioned that the U.S. will not write a blank check to the Pakistani government.
Levin said that Pakistan has not displayed the political will to go after extremists, and instead is more inclined to try and buy peace “with people I don’t think you can buy peace with.”
Asked about Levin’s comments, Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the U.S. needs a comprehensive plan that assures Pakistan that “we’re not going to leave them.” Also, since a lot of resources are going to Pakistan, “there needs to be an audit trail, an understanding where it’s going and what it’s doing, and I think we’re all aboard for that,” he said.
Mullen added that if the Pakistani government funnels any of those resources to the insurgents, the U.S. financial aid should stop.
At the same time, Levin condemned NATO nations for failing to provide the funding and troops needed to wage the Afghanistan war, saying the allies’ performance has been “nothing short of pitiful.”
On top of the 17,000 troops he had already approved, Obama decided last week to send another 4,000 troops that will focus on training Afghan army and police forces to take over their own security.
“We’ve got a long way to go,” Maj. Gen. Richard P. Formica, head of training, said Tuesday of his efforts to reform Afghan police. In addition to the U.S. contribution of 4,000 trainers, Afghan officials are working to weed out corrupt practices in the police sector, including in the way equipment is controlled and accounted for and how pay is handled, Formica told a Pentagon news conference.
About 90,000 Afghan soldiers have been trained and assigned to units, and Formica said officials are on track to grow that number to 134,000 by December 2011. With the police, there are some 80,000 assigned, but a broad effort is being made to reform the force and increase it to roughly 82,000. Officials also are working to determine how many more police and soldiers are needed above the current targets.

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AB and BO. Are you using two niks? That's against the policy of this forum.

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His post was intended to show me how I would feel if Sikhs were typecast as terrorist. His assumption was that I was a Sikh. I dont see how you understood otherwise from his post.

Thanks for that intelligent observation :)

I would really like to know how you came to that conclusion about India sitting in Pakistan. Anyhow, my motherland is not Punjab - its India (all of it). That might be a hard concept for you to grasp, with your provincial and religious tunnel vision but most educated Indians feel the same way as I do. My being a Punjabee & Hindu in no way supercedes my being an Indian.

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Did you explain this to zxcvb in WA thread where he referred to Sikhs as "Punjabi, not Indian"?

Timepass - February
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yes, we give Pakistan the money to fight the terror, which is all epicentred in Pakistan. What is so complicated?

Problem is they are not doing that. They take the money but don't control the rogue parts of the country and the government.

I am not one that would generalize all of Pakistan or its government as creators of terror - there seems to be a big part and not the whole of it. If it were the whole of it, matters will be uglier but easier to resolve

Timepass - February
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hahahha. If you can't be loyal to Punjab, you can never be loyal to Andhra, Kerala, or E. Bengal.

Charity begins at home and not the other way around. But Punjabi Hindus like Lajpat Rai, never understood this basic fact and ended up funding the destruction of Punjab. And you my fellow guppie, are following the same 60+ old "golden" traditions of rai.

Get out of this mentality of demolishing your own home/culture in the name of nationalism.

No wonder Indian Punjab produces the most, and yet receives pennies in return. This is what slavery of Gujratis and Andhra will get you.

You can be proud of your Punjabi motherland and still contribute positively to India. You don't have to kill your Punjabiat and start believing in new god/goddess called India.

But sadly you will never understand it. Your school system has brainwashed your true identity out of you.

p.s. nothing personal. Indian Punjabis of Hindu origin share the same pathetic feeling about their true motherland aka Punjab.

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Seriously B .... i wish Pakistan had more "Pakistanis" then Punjabis, Sindhis, Bengalis, Mohajirs etc etc !!!!!!

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We?????????? hahahhah. We!

Mr. Scrooge claiming to be Santa clause. Hahahaha.

What has this world come to. Bunch of "prejudiced to nth degree" Indians claiming to be the benefactors of Pakistan.

Yeah Right!

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Exactly, “we” :omg:

ME & MY HUBBY SINGING :)
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There is some “benefactor” who is giving money to “Pakistani agencies” for this blood bath … words of a Pakistani minister … ops NWFP minister !!!

Talibanisation is a ‘foreign-funded agenda supported by Pakistani agencies which has facilitated blood bath across Pakistan.’

DAWN.COM | - NWFP | Pakistan must stop Afghan interference: NWFP Minister

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Good Mohajir means that he shows his true love for Karachi by cleaning up "literally" his street and neighborhood and cleans up and beautifies his own home. He cares about the single grass clipping, and every tree branch in his neighborhood as if it was his own child.

If on the other hand, his Mohajrism means only to worship a demi-god Altaf, then it is not being Mohajir, it is all about worshipping gods.

The same thing is true for Indians. Indian-Punjabis are the only one to burn their own homes at the alter of Indi-Goddess.

This whole thread in the name of a Punjabi PM manmohan and your utterings are clear proof, that you all jinguistic Indians are ready to burn your own homes and Pakistani homes at the temple of demi-gods.

You think Lahore attacks or Bombay carnage is bad. Wait till Afghan barbarians break the defensive wall for India, the wall known as Pakistan. Then only then you will say (if you survive) that "Pakistan kitna Acha tha". Hum nain kyon Indian subcontinent ko khud hi aag lagaai..

Sadly this is nothing new. Rajas and maha-rajas of Indian sub-continent have done it for centuries. These dimwit rajas raja-wanna-bees conspire with Goras, Afghans, Russians etc. etc. to bring down their own brothers, their own blood.

So carry on AB carry on. Keep repeating the mistakes and $tupid behavior of the all those who came before you. Shabash.

Timepass - February
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Re: Pakistan epicenter of world terrorism - Indian PM

I being a Pakistani agree with the Indian PM's statement.

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B take a deep breath and think clearly what you want to write ....... do you agree with Indian PM that Pakistan has become an epicenter for terror !!!! Because in your posts you seem to indicate that Pakistan has to act against these "tribals" ....... but when the same thing is pointed out by an Indian you somehow get offended !!!!!!