When i read history of us around 50s to late 60's, i was astonished how much liberal/tolerant our society was, people have less but they were happy. Heck, Pakistani's don't need VISA's for half of the so-called developed world.
Could you imagine a night club, Alcohol seller, a mosque, a church & a temple in a same row, this was real back then - and now ... this, my heart bleeds !
In the 50s, Pakistan was termed as a success and counties like Malaysia used to come and study our economic policies. The Korean war had alot to do with it (as well as the Sui discovery); with the Golden Fibre of PAkistan bringing in alot of foreign reserves. This happened despite the political turmoil of Pakistan during the 50s when we had so many change of premiers than Nehru jokingly said that PAkistan's premiers change more often than his dhoti.
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why would anyone want to read "Friends Not Masters"?! It's an old old old book.
Well, I am little interested in the history from 1948 to 1960 and also in Ayub Khan era and his views.
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Did you read "Shahabnama"?
I did not like Qudratullah Shahab's views at several occasions. But it still gives a good history of Pakistan ... from his biased point-of-view nonetheless.
Did you read "Shahabnama"?
I did not like Qudratullah Shahab's views at several occasions. But it still gives a good history of Pakistan ... from his biased point-of-view nonetheless.
Shahabnama is poor when it comes to historical insight into that period. He has mostly described his personal anecdotes with Ayub and Fazal.
Did you read "Shahabnama"?
I did not like Qudratullah Shahab's views at several occasions. But it still gives a good history of Pakistan ... from his biased point-of-view nonetheless.
No I didnt, sorry again for same question, is it available on net ?
I only know a book store which suit to me is in inside D.F.Shops in Karachi Airport
I usualy buy some books there.
Indian Summer:The Secret History of End of an Empire by Alex Von Tulzman
A very captivating and informative book on last days of British in India and how Nehru influenced Mountbatten through Edwina to handover the water control of Punjab to India. Also shows how baghairat Mountbatten was.
Indian Summer:The Secret History of End of an Empire by Alex Von Tulzman
A very captivating and informative book on last days of British in India and how Nehru influenced Mountbatten through Edwina** to handover the water control of Punjab to India**. Also shows how baghairat Mountbatten was.
A salute to Nehru for this, this shows he was a great leader, the one who knows what kind a issues India have to tackle in the long run.
If people are doing fraud for their country, just like Dr. A Q Khan did when he stole stuff or Pakistan government as whole went on shopping spree for Nuclear stuff...isn't that fraud?
or
when Saudi have a agreement with British/Americans for oil a next 100 years... what was a that a a great service for their generations to come.. or fraud?
A salute to Nehru for this, this shows he was a great leader, the one who knows what kind a issues India have to tackle in the long run.
I disagree. He might have been sincere to India, but he wasnt a very smart or great at all. The Sino-India conflict proved it. He used to beat his dhoti with a stick and claim it was the Chinese. When the Chinese showed him who he was trying to mess with and the bodybags started coming in along with the road that mysteriously popped in, he sobbed like a baby. It was actually much later, in the 90s that India, through some smart policies took off. Before that, they were too relying on IMF aid and always in debt. Sleeping with Mountbatten and his wife and earning favors in bed does not make him a 'great leader'.
I disagree. He might have been sincere to India, but he wasnt a very smart or great at all. The Sino-India conflict proved it. He used to beat his dhoti with a stick and claim it was the Chinese. When the Chinese showed him who he was trying to mess with and the bodybags started coming in along with the road that mysteriously popped in, he sobbed like a baby. It was actually much later, in the 90s that India, through some smart policies took off. Before that, they were too relying on IMF aid and always in debt. Sleeping with Mountbatten and his wife and earning favors in bed does not make him a 'great leader'.
i would love to sleep with Michelle Obama and get favors for Pakistan - what ya think, will i be known as a loser or greatest Pakistani ever exist....?
If people are doing fraud for their country, just like Dr. A Q Khan did when he stole stuff or Pakistan government as whole went on shopping spree for Nuclear stuff...isn't that fraud?
or
when Saudi have a agreement with British/Americans for oil a next 100 years... what was a that a a great service for their generations to come.. or fraud?
or
etc..etc..
Have no idea about Saudi agreement but Pakistan did not steal anyones property to build its nuclear programme.
Have no idea about Saudi agreement but Pakistan did not steal anyones property to build its nuclear programme.
ethically & morally talking - if a country ban you from acquiring certain technical advance machines, will you try to get it from underground market doing wrong ways by breaking the law .. .it will be known as a good or bad ?
I disagree. He might have been sincere to India, but he wasnt a very smart or great at all. The Sino-India conflict proved it. He used to beat his dhoti with a stick and claim it was the Chinese. When the Chinese showed him who he was trying to mess with and the bodybags started coming in along with the road that mysteriously popped in, he sobbed like a baby. It was actually much later, in the 90s that India, through some smart policies took off. Before that, they were too relying on IMF aid and always in debt. Sleeping with Mountbatten and his wife and earning favors in bed does not make him a 'great leader'.
I agree with Spock... Nehru was the dirtiest character in the politics of those times. His personal ambitions were the key factor which caused all the bloodshed.
Basically Nehru was a fascist, centrist, who wanted to become all powerful dictator with absolute power in his hands. He did not believe in any devolution of power. In his dreams he used to see himself as the Indian Stalin. Jinnah on the other hand in the beginning was never a separatist. He envisioned India as a federation with all powerful regions.
India actually started moving forward when they gave up Nehru mentality and started to come closer to the Jinnah model....!!!!
.. that was funny though..