pak has quality india has quantity(britsih experts)

ahmadies i know have a disgust for pashtuns/afghans. btw they should as the messanger to afghans from mirza saheb were hanged by the afghans... what for??? they were preaching to give up their fight against british... and tried to convert afghans...

Where testing them for your sake… We woudn’t be testing them if we didn’t intend to shuv them straight up you rear end. And yes, we are willing to die in the DEFENSE of our great nation. This is because unlike Indian cowards, we have no problem in giving up our lives. You meanwhile can crawl under your bed and hope some other terrorists fight for you. Rememebr, its your country that will start this war, but we will be the ones to end it

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Originally posted by reza khan:
ahmadies i know have a disgust for pashtuns/afghans. btw they should as the messanger to afghans from mirza saheb were hanged by the afghans... what for??? they were preaching to give up their fight against british... and tried to convert afghans...
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Oh please, first of all I have no problem with Pathans or Afghanis.. I am Pakistani first and everything else second. I dont know what the history is of Ahmedis in relation to Afghanistan, but frankly, I dont care. Ahmedis have been hanged for far smaller offenses then that, namely just practicing Islam is a crime for them. If your assumption were correct, that I sound anti Afghan/Pathan because I happen to be Ahmedi, then by the same logic I should hate Paksitan because it has treated Ahmedis so badly, and love India because it is Pakistans enemy. But the opposite is true.
Regardless, this is not the place for Ahmedi related disscusions.

I bet if Govt call to join army u will be first one to go under bed. Also no doubt mijahiddin and some afagani terrorist is fighting for u *******.
Tell me is there yr relative or family members in army. Reply me truly if u r true muslim.


Fight for Justice

well thats what ur comments about taliban .u probably know jack about taliban’s real face.plus when u talk bad about goverment in afghanistan thats alright but when i say musharaf is evil than i’m being called stupid idiot .well to be honest pakistan has never seen a a leader that wasnt evil ( i will consider ayub khan and zia as exception

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How about Quaid-e-Azam? Was he evil too?

What is your position on the Pashtunistan issue?


The eyelids of a Rajputs eyes are lowered only in death.

for you quade azam was your leader
for me bacha khan was my leader.

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for you quade azam was your leader
for me bacha khan was my leader.

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Fair enough, I know he was my leader. Was Quaid e Azam evil? I want your opinion.


The eyelids of a Rajputs eyes are lowered only in death.

Ofcourse I have family in the Army, my brother inlaws nephew is on the front line. I have an distant Uncle who is a Captain in Pakistani navy. And I have another relative who is already in the army for a very long time.. I have actually had relatives fighting in all three wars. I come from a village which has a long history of Millitary service. My dada was in the Air force, my nana was in the Army, my nanas brother served in the army, my Uncle served in the army… I have another Uncle who is a retired Brigadier. So you see, my blood is full of military spirit. No Mujahideen is fighing for me, my army is fighting for me, an army that includes some of my relatives…
And I wouldn;t hide under the bed, thats not a good place to aim from when trying to shoot an Indian soldier..

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I dont care what you say about Musharaf, call him the devil and I couldn’t care.. But insult my country and thats another matter.
Here what I know about those evil Taliban.
Tthey distorted Iislam into a vile religion
They oppress women in every way
They were intolerant towards other religions..
They were intolerant towards their own culture.
They were the embodyment of every Muslim stereotype that ever existed..
I spit on the TALIBAN.. I would expect an educated person like you to do the same..

yea u might wanna try that actually i mean spitting on a talib guy .and than just sit back and listen to the music

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and never ever did i had bad thinking for ur country its not your countries fault. a piece of land cant hear cant talkcant seee anything its the ppl that construct and destroys it.remember it says in quran " MINAL JINATHAY WANNAAS".
so let me get back to the point yea i never cursed pakistan (the land).its the people and by the way it was me who prayed for no war and u were the one who wanted to nuuke india so whos peaceful minded and whos not its right here in the thread.
lar sha pekhawer tha kamees thor ma la rawra

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thazza thazza guloona thray salor ma la rawra.
huhhh wat a song .

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Originally posted by RajputFury:
** Fair enough, I know he was my leader. Was Quaid e Azam evil? I want your opinion.

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yea he was a good leader and he wasnt evil..
so now u tell me ur opinion about muhammad omer mujahid.

When I say spit on Taliban, I dont mean literally. I just HATE them with a passion.
Lastly, Im sorry yaar, I dont think I need you to define how a wa with India should be conducted. I said and I am sure that you will agree, that if Indians attack then it is our duty to defend our country. If we didn’t then you would be right, I would be a coward. If the Indians force us to use a Nuclear strike, then so be it. They were the ones that tested first, they knew that they were sending South Asia spiraling into a Nuclear conflict. There mistake.
I want peace above all else, and in no way do I want to murder Millions with a Nuke bomb.. But what choice do we have if they attack us? Pakistan will never be another Kashmir. No self respecting Pakistani would ever humble himself to India. You expect us to help defend your nation, and then you tell me not to do the same for my own? We have nukes for a reason, if they fail as a detterant, then we have no choice to use them as a weapon.
And yes, that song is very nice, So what? I have it on tape…

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Originally posted by fakeer:
** yea he was a good leader and he wasnt evil..
so now u tell me ur opinion about muhammad omer mujahid.**
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I idolize Ghaffar Khan, the greatest of all Pathan leaders.

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Originally posted by fakeer:
** yea he was a good leader and he wasnt evil..
so now u tell me ur opinion about muhammad omer mujahid.**
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Thanks for your answer.
Mullah Omar is a simple, well meaning leader. I know how he was an orphan and fought the Afghan warlords from opressing common Afghanis, indeed I respect that. I also respect the fact that he gave up power to protect his guest Bin Laden. So that is what I think of the Amir-ul-Momineen.


The eyelids of a Rajputs eyes are lowered only in death.

Asalamuailaikum
My brothers and sisters. I am samandar baba. As many of u probably don't know me, i am from the deep oceans of WaterKhel. And as i read some of the posts in this topic, it came into my observation that it's completely different inside compared to the topic. Any ways my children be united and be strong. i will inshallah try to come here regularly and will try to share my opinions with u guys. But its a BAD addiction if u get addicted to these forums and chatting, you tend to waste a lot of precious time. As i know some people who r like that and i just try not to get addicted to it that much so that i can get some work done and not sit on computer for the whole day. Anyways i will try to come here regularly and join u in this precious conversations of yours
Wasalam

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man i dunno what language shud i write to make u understand what i wanna say.

buddy this is the last time i’m telling you plz lets not make this a never ending topic.

lets both pray cuz we are both muslims forget where we come from .i said this before and now too lets pray thrs no war AT ALL.cuz if thr is one thr are more chances of nuclear war and who will benefit it no one nor pakistan nor india.
and yea if thr is war buddy i never said to sit back and watch news on cnn u, i all muslims have the duty to make the ultimate sacrifice for islam 1st than defence of thr country.
its none of my business but as a muslim brother i will inshalla.but to be honest its gonna be really hard .if i support the war against india its only the fact that pakistanis are muslim thats all.

Below blessed verses are esp dedicated to Fakeer Alam, Adnan, Samandar Bacha, and to Toopak khan…

  • Khumaryaan, Khumaryaan, Khumaryaan Raghalay dee na…
    Mirza khana, khana…Chaylum rawala…
    Khumaryaan Raghalay dee naa.. Mirza Khana, Khana… Chaylum rawala…*
    Samandar khana, makhay sangay da this song?

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