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People would believe anything, and whatever is written in the media is NOT the Gospel truth.
This reminds me of a long story but I will make it short.
A Nun had a donkey; the donkey won many races, one day the nun decided to sell the donkey so she sold it for $10. The headlines in the Local newspaper read:-
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So you mean to tell me that USA just to scare the american people is creating these fictional tapes in Hollywood studios and then sending them to their CIA agents in Pakistan from where they give those tapes to Al-Jazeera?
If this was the case, then shouldn't there be an army of computer nerds that point out the flaws of the tape?
Or is it Al-Qaeda that have recruited Computer Experts and have installed state of the art computers in their caves from where they reincarnate their dead leader by using motion capture technology and audio recordings from which they tell their faithful that their noble warrior is still alive....
Or more probable is the fact that Osama is still alive and they use some cheap camera to record their messages and then send them through couriers to Pakistan from where those messages are given to Arab News Channels...
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“Nun Sells Ass For $10”
The Media is not the gospel of truth but you can certainly find enough information to asertain the truth if you go to multiple sources.
If you only listen to mullahs blaring on their loud speakers is that going to give you the complete picuture of whats happening?
And vice versa is true when you watch western or arab media...
You have to read both sides of the equation to get to the truth but I am afraid you are not doing that and are only listening to people who think like you and believe in your principles in how the world should be governed
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a more believable scenario is that the US know exactly where he is! and have tracked his movements for the last 10/15 years. Bush needs OBL to continue the war of terror
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it is possible, the final decision of his capture wouldnt rest with pakistan. pakistan interest is more then financial aid. image, recognition, mutual respect and building partnerships with western countries is also a goal. pakistan were dumped immediately after they last helped the US and failled to get a longer term strategic role
Experts were puzzling over the latest videotape of Osama bin Laden yesterday in the hope of establishing firm clues which may indicate when and where the recording was made.
Parts of the 105-minute tape broadcast by al-Jazeera, the Arab satellite channel, on Wednesday night showed Bin Laden with his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, who urged supporters to bury Americans in “the graveyard of Iraq”.
But a French terrorism expert cautioned yesterday against taking the video at face value. Roland Jacquard, head of the International Observatory on Terrorism based in Paris, told French radio that it was mostly a collection of old footage and soundtracks which have been aired.
“Given that Osama bin Laden has not appeared on a video cassette for many months, it is pretty incomprehensible that in the only video cassette where he appears beside Ayman al-Zawahiri he doesn’t speak, he just allows the latter to speak,” Mr Jacquard said.
“The voice of Bin Laden that we hear in the background, thanking the World Trade Centre plane hijackers, is exactly the same message that was broadcast in a video cassette by al-Jazeera on December 26 2001,” he said.
Mr Jacquard said some of the Bin Laden pictures on the tape could predate the US-led offensive in the Tora Bora mountains in eastern Afghanistan in December 2001 during which the al-Qaida leader was confirmed as being present.
A CIA official said yesterday that analysis of the “Bin Laden” voice on the latest tape had been inconclusive, but the other voice had been authenticated as Zawahiri’s.
Sections of the tape showed Bin Laden and Zawahiri walking in a mountainous area carrying sticks, possibly to steady themselves over the rocky terrain, and automatic weapons.
Bin Laden had a watch with a large circular dial, different from the black digital watch which he often wore in photographs taken before the Afghan war. There was no sign of a ring which he previously wore on his right hand.
Experts said the background suggested the men had been filmed in the border area between Afghanistan and Pakistan in early summer.
Bin Laden made no topical references in the soundtrack but Zawahiri mentioned the US-led invasion of Iraq.
“On the second anniversary of the raids on New York and Washington we challenge America and its crusade, which is teetering from its wounds in Afghanistan and Iraq,” he said.
An Arab journalist who interviewed Bin Laden in Tora Bora told the Guardian yesterday that the al-Qaida leader looked different in the video.
“He definitely has more grey hair but he looks healthier,” said Abd al-Bari Atwan, editor of al-Quds al-Arabi.
He was also surprised by the timing of the video to coincide with September 11. “Bin Laden doesn’t usually care about anniversaries,” he said.
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So what r u saying?
Is Bin Laden dead?
Dont you think that al Qaeda can use bin laden as a matyr to recruit more terrorist beasts into their ranks?
After all Al Qaeda didnt deny when their leaders got killed or captured, so why all the mythos about bin laden?
as for the 2004 tape, it was the most examined piece of film on the planet and I havent heard anything on the contrary that it was forged or special effects were used to create bin laden....
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The Media is not the gospel of truth but you can certainly find enough information to asertain the truth if you go to multiple sources.<<<
Yup going to different biased newspapers and gathering information is more authentic than the intelligence gathered by ISI and the CIA at the front line. huh
If you only listen to mullahs blaring on their loud speakers is that going to give you the complete picuture of whats happening?<<<
The mullahs dint tell me the story of the nun.:)
You have to read both sides of the equation to get to the truth but I am afraid you are not doing that and are only listening to people who think like you and believe in your principles in how the world should be governed<<<
Firstly I am not talking about world governance…
Secondly I am not reading, I am meeting air force and army personnel who have served at the pak-afghan border. Thirdly I live in Pakistan and know quite well what is happening on day to day basis against terror suspects in Pakistan. I think Pakistan has bent over backwards in an effort to clear the country from such elements and such false news just undermines the sacrifices our soldiers have made for this “war on Terror”.
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..and yeah one other thing , peers of the nun and village folks believed the News, the Nun was not pleased with the headlines so she bought back the donkey and let it free in the wilderness. The nesxt day the headlines in the newspaper read "Nun's ass is wild and free"
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Even if 2004 video is real it doesn’t change the fact that Tim Osman was ( and still may be) CIA asset. October surprise video might not be fake but what a coincidence that he releases a video only 2 weeks before presidential elections to give boost to Bush campaign. These kinds of actions are unsurprising from someone who used to be on US govt payroll.