Operation true Promise...

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Re: Operation true Promise…

@Doppleganger

Not to take away from an organized resistance by hezbollah, a first for arabs in the modern era against Israel, but please don’t amplify it much more than what it is. In the larger scheme of things, arab countries still fear Israel s Israel’s fear in the arabs hasn’ completely eroded yet. PS What makes you think desis don’t know when they have such a love affair with palestine when arabs don’t want them (pakistanis) mediating in this conflict?

Hehe good points I agree with you. Offcourse Arab nations fear Isreal as Isreal fears them… but strictly speaking from a soldiers eyes and in a millitary context, there is absolutely no reason Isreal caqnnot be beaten the myth of Isreali invincibilty is precisely that, its a myth. However if the Arab’s or Palestinians in particular are seen as hopeless in thier plight this is not true, there is hope but I pray it is a peacefull end becuase even if the Arabs throw Isreal into the sea as Ahmedinajad and others want it will be at a terrible cost.

As for Desis not knowing about the matter, offcourse your right in the fact that most Muslims are obsessed with the Palestine issue. What makes the Lebanon war different is that Hezbollah is a highly secretive organisation, and they and the IDF are very hush hush about the truth behind this war… what makes it unique from a millitary perspective is that it is one of the best examples of assymetric warfare in modern times. The rise of Hezbollah is a truly phenomenal story… one which few people truly know.

@The_Beast

Thanks Dude for these info but for the sake of my knowledge. I heard that once Egypt, Syria and may be another country did combine attack/defend against Israil and Israil almost lost the war but UNO interfere and stop the War!!! Am i right ?

That was the Yom Kippur war you refer too my friend of 1973… in terms of importance it was the closest war in which the Zionist state really did almost cease to exist… while the UN stepped in at the end… the Arabs lost it due to several factors. Millitarily speaking it was not really an Isreali victory as they had been comprehensively beaten on the battlefield however politics took it’s toll and among the casualties of that war one of my Heros literally saw Defeat snatched from the Jaws of Victory…

@Doppleganger

NO but US resupplied them with weapons and jewish people were heard to be signing up to go defend israel in the west, though some muslims say americans actually landed their armies to defend israel. There was also US reconnaissance flights by SR-71s that helped israel detect where egyptians might attack them and then counterattack them in the suez where the egyptians didn’t expect it. Towards the end of the war, Israel was in sight of capturing suez again and perhaps taking it the egyptian hinterland proper. I think it was officially syria and egypt as I don’t remember the jordanians losing their AF like in 1967, but other arab countries probably sent in weapons and cash.

My friends I shall digress breifly and explain, often people mix up the events of the 67 and 73 wars. In 1967 Isreal anahilated all opponents in a series of surprise pre-emtive strikes, most famously they destroyed the Egyptian air force and occupied the entire Sinai peninsula. As well as this the struck out and siezed almost half of Jordan, what is now called the West bank is known so as it is all the territory on the West of the Jordan valley. Syria also lost a lot but importantly it’s army like Egypts was still strong but without air support everyone thought it was game over.

In 1973 Isreal and the Arab states could not agree to negotiations. Nasser before he died and was replaced by Saddat wanted the Sinai penisula back, the Syrians wanted the Golan hieghts and the Jordanians wanted thier lost territory. However Isreal refused to agree to all the terms (though Isreali sources blame the Arabs) which led to Egypt and Syria vowing to re-take thier land by force. Jordan despite having it’s air force intact chose not to fight, King Abdullah was either wise to try and keep what was left of his country or a coward for not fighting back. Syria led by Haffez al Assad and Egypt under Anwar Sadat both made preparations for a combined effort. However without air support both nations would need a miracle, and they got it in the person of one man. My long term hero and one of the greatest Muslim generals of recent history, Saad al Shaazly.

It was this Egyptian martial genius who despite overwhelming odds single handedly not only swiped aside the fortified Isreali Bar lev Line across the Suez but was close to invading Isreal itself… he chose to hold his postion. The Syrians had no general even close to Shaazly and thier incompetence led to Sadat ordering Shaazly to attack beyond the cover of SAM missiles that were protecting his 3rd army from Isreali jets. Shaazly bravely led his troops into a solo battle which ended up with his army encircled and almost wiped out, despite all odds however the 3rd Army helds its position and survived the war intact. Isreal may have won the war but in every battle it was Shaazly who had brought Egyptians hope and they were able to negiotiate the return of Sinai to Egypt. If only more men like Shaazly were allowed to rule Egypt, sadly his story is another one that is not so well known outside of the region.

Anyway as for Hezbollah.

The Shia millitant group was formed in the early 1980’s as a insurgent group with the primary objective of fighting off the Isreali occupying forces in Lebanon. As well as fighting the Isreali’s Hezbollah fought the Christian Phalangist millitia and eventually helped the PLO destroy their bitter enemy. In 2000 Isreal formerly pulled it’s troops from the last outposts of Lebanon. Hezbollah not only was among the groups happily claiming credit for the Isreali withdrawal it was given full backing of the Lebanese people, more so than the government itself. I am a little tired right now I wanted to write more about Hezbhollah and how it grew from the guerilla force of the 80’s to the highly diciplined and organised force that fought the 5th strongest army in the world to a standstill… but that will have to wait.