Re: One billion Muslims to turn into suicide bombers if Makkah, Madina are attacked:
I don't give a shyte about the 'Muslim Nation'.. I care more about the 'Human Nation'... I believe in World Peace and Human Harmony... I don't care about propagating an Islamic Caliphate and reversing the direction of Power.. Hence I'm against this concept of every muslim country attacking the west if Makkah, Madina are attack.. becuz that will bring immense loss of life (muslim and non muslim) and destruction to humanity..
Riiiiiiiightttt, Good one.
And what have you done to aid the slaughtering of millions of muslims in the last few decades? In Afghanistan, Iraq, Kosovo, Bosnia, etc?
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Let me see
Iraq-Iran war is biggest Civil war in last centurty where more than million muslims died on both sides...
Oh it was USA and western countries Supporting Saddam Hussain, their Key ally of the that time... a man with no religion, a man who represented the mixture of Communist-Socailist Part ( Bath Party)
In Pakistan Sunni-Shia are fighting, let see them who is feuling them and what measure were taken to put the fire off??? i guess i need not to mention that
Any way, now that i have given u a glimpse.. please tell me the effect of actvities these humantarain had???
You, who advocate a world wide ummah, oneness and brotherhood of Muslims want to know how humanitarians have helped stop Muslims from killing Muslims? Why don't you question the validity, effectiveness or generousity of the ummah?
The benefits around the globe from economic to medical to social to agricultural to political that have come from those who advocate a world wide human race have been immeasurable. The only way this world will survive in the future is for us to recognize that we are one human race with similar goals. We are going to have to rely on and help each other.
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I'd like to echo that with a verse in the Quran: O mankind! Lo! We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. Lo! the noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the best in conduct. Lo! Allah is Knower, Aware.
Let's first qualify for the above before the outcry for the ummah...
Re: One billion Muslims to turn into suicide bombers if Makkah, Madina are attacked:
Riiiiiiiightttt, Good one.
And what have you done to aid the slaughtering of millions of muslims in the last few decades? In Afghanistan, Iraq, Kosovo, Bosnia, etc?
Unfortunately I have not done anything directly to help the innocent muslims of Iraq and Bosnia, just like I have not done anything directly to help the innocent christians of Sudan and innocent hindus and muslims of Kashmir. I never claimed that I did. I'm just saying that YOUR CONCERN SHOULD NOT BE LIMITED JUST TO MUSLIMS. Even in this post you only point out the innocent muslims being slaughtered, you dont give a F about the innocent christians or hindus? That's what I'm trying to point out here. Humanitarian bonds should be more important than Islamic bonds.
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Unfortunately I have not done anything directly to help the innocent muslims of Iraq and Bosnia, just like I have not done anything directly to help the innocent christians of Sudan and innocent hindus and muslims of Kashmir. I never claimed that I did. I'm just saying that YOUR CONCERN SHOULD NOT BE LIMITED JUST TO MUSLIMS. Even in this post you only point out the innocent muslims being slaughtered, you dont give a F about the innocent christians or hindus? That's what I'm trying to point out here. Humanitarian bonds should be more important than Islamic bonds.
No, my concern isn't limited, its more humanitarian than you think.
However, the people suffering the most and require IMMEDIATE attention are the muslims, and as a BROTHER in the same faith as them, im required to assist thema nd care for them. This doesn't mean if i saw another person in need of help I wont help him, its a matter of priorities and a bigger picture.
Who else is suffering at the hands of genocide currently? The muslims top that list. Thats why the concern is here.
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I don't believe this. There is nothing called Humanity? This is what I hate about most my muslim brothers. The bond of humanity should be more important than the bond of Islam. This is exactly the kind of mentality that makes people laugh at us when we say 'Islam is Love' and 'Islam is Peace'.
I don't know what you mean by SHEIKH CHILLI.
Also, do not assume that I'm supportive of the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions. As a 'Humanitarian', I oppose the killing of innocent humans, be it Muslim Christian Jews or Hindus. This means I'm against innocent killings of muslims in Iraq, Gujrat and Kashmiri Hindus in Kashmir, and Muslims in Bosnia, and Christians in Sudan etc etc.
Isn't it odd how you ONLY cry about the atrocities UPON Muslims (iraq, palestine) and you ignore the atrocities on non muslims? Its because you only care about Muslim blood. Everything else is Kafir, not important, can be killed and raped and cut into pieces.
I absolutely agree, its sick how so many muslims turn a blind eye whn innocent non- muslims are killed, but are up in arms whn it cums to muslims, this is not wht islam teaches us!
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No, my concern isn't limited, its more humanitarian than you think.
However, the people suffering the most and require IMMEDIATE attention are the muslims, and as a BROTHER in the same faith as them, im required to assist thema nd care for them. This doesn't mean if i saw another person in need of help I wont help him, its a matter of priorities and a bigger picture.
Who else is suffering at the hands of genocide currently? The muslims top that list. Thats why the concern is here.
Come on bro, read your post yourself. How can you make such an assumption that muslims are the ones suffering by genocide. What about the christians in Sudan and hindu kashmiris in Kashmir? Is that not genocide?
It should not be your priority to cry about muslims suffering rather than christians suffering. It should be about humans suffering. You should not think of them as Muslims or Christians or Hindus. You should look at them as innocent civilians being massacred. I don't know how else can I emphasize that.
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So suicide has been declared as halal against the orders of Allah and yet no one even tried to look at this issue from an Islamic context?
If all muslims do turn into suicide bombers, 90% of there targets will be other muslims who they do not agree with. It will be a huge suicide bombing orgy where all muslims will die.
Re: One billion Muslims to turn into suicide bombers if Makkah, Madina are attacked:
this is lame...
its like saying "if you hit my mother , i will commit suicide"...
btw i love these people's claims and numbers they conjure.
Well said, where is this fascination and support of suicide coming from among deluded muslims? They are creating their own religion where suicide is halal and education is haraam.
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Robert Fisk, the London-Based Independent’s Middle East correspondent stated on this cruel idea of terrorism.
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*...‘terrorism no longer means terrorism. It is not a definition; it is a political contrivance. Terrorists’ are those who use violence against the side that is using word. The only terrorists whom Israel acknowledges are those who oppose Israel. The only terrorists the United States acknowledges are those who oppose United States or their allies. The only terrorists Palestinians acknowledges- for they too use the word- are those opposed to the Palestinians
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Re: One billion Muslims to turn into suicide bombers if Makkah, Madina are attacked:
Come on bro, read your post yourself. How can you make such an assumption that muslims are the ones suffering by genocide. What about the christians in Sudan and hindu kashmiris in Kashmir? Is that not genocide?
It should not be your priority to cry about muslims suffering rather than christians suffering. It should be about humans suffering. You should not think of them as Muslims or Christians or Hindus. You should look at them as innocent civilians being massacred. I don't know how else can I emphasize that.
Ofcourse not, I'm against any sort of oppression there may be. Thats what Islam teaches you. No innocent should suffer when there are muslims amongst us. Muslims are supposed to be beacon for peace, and not harm. But in today's world, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, etc many muslims are dying, and since every muslims is stereotyped as a terrorist or a potential one, we are suffering the worst at the hands of tyrants.
Thats why all these tyranny need to be stopped, collectively. No ones ignoring the death of innocent people, you cant. But this thread is about muslims being bombed and turning suicidal, thats what I'm on about.
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Why everyone wants to blow him/herself up?
Hareeem- is that your pic in the avatar? Please tell by PM. Thanks. Send me some pics of yours to your brother(me) please. I assume you are very good looking :)
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What benefit is there to attacking these places??
nothing, just a reatrdeed red neck moron to ensure he gets votes and donations from other retarded red neck morons who think like him and voted him into office.
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I think that Boucher is an idiot. He does not know what to say and when to open his mouth.
On the same token, we would be following his path of wisdom (or lack of it) if we argue/protest on this from different platforms.
In Pakistan, thousand people burn US flag and bash America day and night. I dont se eUSA taking any notice of that becuase they dont care
On the other hand, if a dog from USA barks at Pakistani flag, we start protesting.
Why should we care. Let Boucher or anyone bark whatever. We should only care about the things that matter to us. Like current US bill which Bush signed. Who care about Boucher