This is SO RIDICULOUS. You think the Ukrainian army would withdraw ** after just ONE casualty as they say? - NOWAY.** The casualties have to be SIGNIFICANT inorder for such drastic measures to be taken - we are talking about a WHOLE town here, not some measly township or a locality in a city. You guys should know that in war, casulaties are always played down, and the news which comes out out of the battle field might not be accurate - you can NOT Trust what the US Media etc. might be saying coz they are part of war.
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I just keep thinking of a quote from an Iraqi, "If the US leaves we will eat each other."
Like it or not, the only thing between chaos and order in Iraq is the US. The UN will not come. No other country will send troops or funds now.
If the US leaves now, the Iraqis will kill another 10,000 in the first week as old scores are settled...
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In Rawanda and Burundi, they ** were** eating each other - and quite literally too, in some cases. OH but then thats poor wretched Africa, who cares?
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In Rawanda and Burundi, they ** were** eating each other - and quite literally too, in some cases. OH but then thats poor wretched Africa, who cares?
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You see, yanks don't care about rawandans or koreans but they love camel jokeys.... how very nice.....
Brilliant..Now let me read up on what IS happening:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/09/international/middleeast/09SHIA.html
EX-RIVALS UNITING
Signs That Shiites and Sunnis Are Joining to Fight Americans
By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN
Published: April 9, 2004
BAGHDAD, Iraq, April 8 — When the United States invaded Iraq a year ago, one of its chief concerns was preventing a civil war between Shiite Muslims, who make up a majority in the country, and Sunni Muslims, who held all the power under Saddam Hussein.
Now the fear is that the growing uprising against the occupation is forging a new and previously unheard of level of cooperation between the two groups — and the common cause is killing Americans.
“We have orders from our leader to fight as one and to help the Sunnis,” said Nimaa Fakir, a 27-year-old teacher and foot soldier in the Mahdi Army, a Shiite militia. “We want to increase the fighting, increase the killing and drive the Americans out. To do this, we must combine forces.”
This new Shiite-Sunni partnership was flourishing in Baghdad on Thursday. Convoys of pickup trucks with signature black Shiite flags flapping from their bumpers hauled sacks of grain, flour, sugar and rice into Sunni mosques.
The food donations were coming from Shiite families, in many cases from people with little to spare. And they were headed to the besieged residents of Falluja, a city that has now become the icon of the resistance, especially after the bombing on Wednesday of a mosque compound there.
“Sunni, Shia, that doesn’t matter anymore,” said Sabah Saddam, a 32-year-old government clerk who took the day off to drive one of the supply trucks. “These were artificial distinctions. The people in Falluja are starving. They are Iraqis and they need our help.”
But it is not just relief aid that is flowing into the city.
According to several militia members, many Shiite fighters are streaming into Falluja to help Sunni insurgents repel a punishing assault by United States marines. Groups of young men with guns are taking buses from Shiite neighborhoods in Baghdad to the outskirts of Falluja, and then slipping past checkpoints to join the action. “It’s not easy to get in, but we have our ways,” said Ahmed Jumar, a 25-year-old professional soccer player who also belongs to a Shiite militia. “Our different battles have turned into one fight, the fight against the Americans.”
American leaders had been concerned that the rival sectarian groups would not find a common cause. Now, it seems, they have found a common enemy. “The danger is we believe there is a linkage that may be occurring at the very lowest levels between the Sunni and the Shia,” Lt. General Ricardo Sanchez, commander of the occupation forces, said on Thursday. “We have to work very hard to ensure that it remains at the tactical level.”
He also said the call for unity is “clearly an attempt to take advantage of the situation.”
Brig. Gen. Mark Hertling, an assistant commander of the First Armored Division, said military intelligence indicated that there might be some loose coordination between the renegade Shia movement of Moktada al-Sadr and a Sunni extremist group called Mohammed’s Army in the western portions of Baghdad.
Dude thats amazing! Next thing ur gonna hear of is some major shrine being blown away [and the blame being put on either the Sunni or Shias] inorder to break this unity. - and we’ll all know who really did it.
Hundreds of Shias and Sunnis came together for the first time in history putting aside their differences. WOW! When I saw that news I was like man we truly have something here. Do these war mongering yankis still consider these people a flock of terrorists? When will they admit to the fact these people are Iraqis and they are pissed as hell?
Today every news channel was labeling it a war on “terror”. I thought this war was about WMD and Iraqi freedom and the war on terror was in Afghanistan? Speaking of Afghanistan today news reported that Dostum has parted ways with his master and has recaptured some of his cities.
Afghan City Falls to Commander as Troops Fly In
Thu Apr 8,10:47 AM ET Add World - Reuters to My Yahoo!
By Sayed Salahuddin
KABUL (Reuters) - Forces of a renegade adviser to President Hamid Karzai overran the capital of a northern province on Thursday, creating a fresh security headache for Afghanistan (news - web sites)'s Western-backed government.