Nursery Rhymes and Their Origins

[Kinzz]

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Awww this was my fvt

@devilish_angel

Ring a Ring o’ Roses

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Ring a Ring o’ Roses first appeared in print in 1881 but it was being sung from at least the 1790s. Most people consider the nursery rhyme to be making reference to the Great Plague of London in 1665 but this view did not appear until after World War II. Furthermore, the symptoms don’t describe the plague particularly well, and the words upon which the plague interpretation is based don’t even exist in the earliest forms of the rhyme. The earliest form recorded is:
Ring around the rosy,
A pocket full of posies;
ashes, ashes
we all fall down!
Despite the fact that it is extremely unlikely to refer to the plague, the concept is so deeply set in the modern English speaker’s psyche that it is unlikely to fade in the future.

[muqawwee123]

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@Kinzz

Awww this was my fvt

I thought your favorite would be ;jhoo jhoo maati’ and ‘paiso ladham patta ta’

[Kinzz]

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My another fvt one head shoulder knees and toes.. DA post

[Kinzz]

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@muqawwee123

I thought your favorite would be ;jhoo jhoo maati’ and ‘paiso ladham patta ta’

Why

[muqawwee123]

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@Kinzz

Why

because even those Sindhi who didn’t go to school remember these poems

[Kinzz]

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because even those Sindhi who didn't go to school remember these poems

Where wr used to live there were no Sindhi friend or sindhi neighborhood, my cousins from village n hyd knew this poem joo joo mati they used to play in a group and would sing this poem,I only remember this first line ,so even if those who didn't go to school learnt these poems this way.

[muqawwee123]

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Where wr used to live there were no Sindhi friend or sindhi neighborhood, my cousins from village n hyd knew this poem joo joo mati they used to play in a group and would sing this poem,I only remember this first line ,so even if those who didn't go to school learnt these poems this way.

girls used to play 'chham chham' and sing these poems.

BTW aap bhi chham chham khelti thin?

[Kinzz]

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@muqawwee123

girls used to play ‘chham chham’ and sing these poems.

BTW aap bhi chham chham khelti thin?

Loll yes we still do
That’s the only game I played in my childhood

[Kinzz]

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Cham Cham is a complete poem.

[muqawwee123]

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Cham Cham is a complete poem.

It also includes some historical references :D

Hindustan ki pehli gali, pehli gali main Liaqat Ali.. Liaqat Ali ko goli lagi, saari dunya rone lagi

[Kinzz]

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It also includes some historical references :D

Hindustan ki pehli gali, pehli gali main Liaqat Ali.. Liaqat Ali ko goli lagi, saari dunya rone lagi

Hain?? I thought it's

Pakistan Ki pehlee gali, pehlee gali Mai rehta Mohmad Ali,

[muqawwee123]

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@Kinzz

Hain?? I thought it’s

Pakistan Ki pehlee gali, pehlee gali Mai rehta Mohmad Ali,

aage kia hai aap ke version main

[Kinzz]

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Agahy same hi hoga I guess.

Rotay rotay maa boli
Kha lo beta moong phali
Mong phali Mai Dana nahi
Hum tumhare nana nahi
Nana Gaye Delhi
Delhi se laye bili
Lol yahan tak same hai?

[muqawwee123]

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Agahy same hi hoga I guess.

Rotay rotay maa boli Kha lo beta moong phali Mong phali Mai Dana nahi Hum tumhare nana nahi Nana Gaye Delhi Delhi se laye bili Lol yahan tak same hai?

Pakistan ki pehli gali, pehli gali main Muhammad Ali
Liaqauat Ali ko goli lagi,,,,,,,,

ye Mohamamd Ali se Liaqat Ali wala exchange samajh nahin aaya. lagta hai Star Plus ka drama hai.. Iss episode se Mihr Veerani ka role ye actor karenge :D

[Kinzz]

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@muqawwee123

Pakistan ki pehli gali, pehli gali main Muhammad Ali
Liaqauat Ali ko goli lagi,

ye Mohamamd Ali se Liaqat Ali wala exchange samajh nahin aaya. lagta hai Star Plus ka drama hai.. Iss episode se Mihr Veerani ka role ye actor karenge

I googled mihr veerani

[muqawwee123]

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@Kinzz

I googled mihr veerani

say thanks for increase in your knowledge

[devilish_angel]

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@muqawwee123

I heard that ‘babybay yes Mama’ was actually conversation between Punjab saas-bahoo, first they replaced saas-bahoo with Mama-baby and then got it translated into English. Here is the amended Punjabi version

hahahaha tht was funny

[devilish_angel]

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@devilish_angel

Sing a Song of Sixpence

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Sing a song of sixpence dates back to at least the eighteenth century. In the original, the tale ends with a blackbird pecking off the nose of the maid in the garden; in the mid-nineteenth century this was sanitized with the addition of a final verse in which a doctor sews it back on. While interpretations vary wildly, the four and twenty blackbirds are most likely simply a reference to a common practice in the sixteenth-century in which large pies were baked then filled with live birds which would escape when the pie was cut. This stems from the fact that a meal was meant not just as nourishment, but entertainment.

Sing a song of sixpence,
A pocket full of rye.
Four and twenty blackbirds,
Baked in a pie.
When the pie was opened,
The birds began to sing;
Wasn’t that a dainty dish,
To set before the king?
The king was in his counting house,
Counting out his money;
The queen was in the parlour,
Eating bread and honey.
The maid was in the garden,
Hanging out the clothes;
When down came a blackbird
And pecked off her nose.

[devilish_angel]

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@devilish_angel

Rock-a-bye Baby

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Originally titled ‘Hushabye Baby’, this nursery rhyme was said to be the first poem written on American soil. Although there is no evidence as to when the lyrics were written, it may date from the seventeenth century and have been written by an English immigrant who observed the way native-American women rocked their babies in birch-bark cradles, which were suspended from the branches of trees, allowing the wind to rock the baby to sleep. An alternative interpretation states that the baby is the son of King James II of England, who was widely believed to be someone else’s child smuggled into the birthing room in order to provide a Catholic heir for James. In this interpretation, the cradle represents the Stuart monarchy

Hush-a-by baby
On the tree top,
When the wind blows
The cradle will rock.
When the bough breaks,
The cradle will fall,
And down will fall babyCradle and all.

[devilish_angel]

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@devilish_angel

Little Jack Horner

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The first recorded version of Little Jack Horner comes from the eighteenth-century but it is most likely to have be known since the seventeenth. In the nineteenth century the story began to gain currency that the rhyme is actually about Thomas Horner, who steward to Richard Whiting, the last abbot of Glastonbury Abbey before the dissolution of the monasteries under Henry VIII of England. The story is reported that, prior to the abbey’s destruction, the abbot sent Horner to London with a huge Christmas pie which had the deeds to a dozen manors hidden within it and that during the journey Horner opened the pie and extracted the deeds of the manor of Mells in Somerset. It is further suggested that, since the manor properties included lead mines in the Mendip Hills, the plum is a pun on the Latin plumbum, for lead. The current owners of Mells Manor have stated that they doubt this interpretation.

Little Jack Horner
Sat in the corner,
Eating a Christmas pie;
He put in his thumb,
And pulled out a plum,
And said ‘What a good boy am I!’[SUP][/SUP]