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Arrogant, far from it, the impression I get is one of wonderment at the mundane. You guys are great I wouldn’t want you any other way; children of innocence afloat in a sea of reality. The most original thought wasted on choosing your nicknames you serve a worthy purpose as ready fodder to most anyone.
I especially enjoy the occasional attempts at humour, but slap stick never did translate well into text.
Gentlemen I salute you, you truly have found your niche, let’s hope we can all fit around it.
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Another home run. The haughty musings are endless, effortless and precious. More.
More!
Many thanks OG for stating my EXACT position. You da man. Go Buckeyes.
Why can't the current administration spell it out for the american people in this direct fashion, instead of obtuse statements like "we are fighting the enemies of freedom."
I find it hard to balance my arrogance with my wonderment at the mundane, but that post seemed to capture the essence of my pi$$offedness at snotty know-it-alls as well as a sense of History, appropriately steeped in pro-western bias.
Yeah, Thap seems to know exactly how non-Muslim Americans feel more then they will ever know for themselves. What he doesn't know is that non-Muslims in America don't practice Islam; and also Muslims in America come in many colors. Do you recall how Sikhs were beaten after 9/11 because some jackass thought that they were Muslims.
It’s nice to have people think for you isn’t it Stu.
OG,
Fighting communism and fighting terrorism…where does Iraq fall into the equation or for that matter Afghanistan. If terrorist training camps are still being torn down everyday or Kabul is being re-built into the next Dubai lets see it on CNN.
Cancelling your trip to the ‘holy land’ and the Intifada have little to do with the war on terror last I dreamt.
It’s plain to see that billions expended in dropping super-smart TNT has done little apart from bought you some real estate that has the quaint effect of killing your people, be it the heat, mysterious deaths whilst sleeping or good old RPG’s it certainly isn’t somewhere where you’d think of retiring.
It’s not the way the current administration has dressed this Imperial push up, from all accounts it’s worked a treat on the majority of the American populace. It’s valid to generalise about you guys as your run by a seemingly benevolent dictator and the majority of you couldn’t be happier.
BTW what are all this chutney-eating brown Americans doing in this thread, maybe I should have been more specific.
NYA, don’t go out into the street again straight out of the shower with a towel wrapped around your head.
Egyptian Islamic scholars have issued Fatwas against America, perhaps Thap is just during his part. Thap is it "valid to generalize about you" Muslims as terrorists as you seemly care little about the war and terror against the infidels? How about leaving the generalizations to inept and benighted?
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Egyptian Islamic scholars have issued Fatwas against America, perhaps Thap is just during his part. Thap is it "valid to generalize about you" Muslims as terrorists as you seemly care little about the war and terror against the infidels? How about leaving the generalizations to inept and benighted?
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I'd love to believe that the majority of non-Muslim Americans have a greater grasp of the current global-political situation and the ramifications of imposing tyranny on random populations around the world; alas you guys on gupshup are in the spotlight and carry a responsibility of putting forward the views of the masses in your demographic.
It's fun to generalize especially when you have such caricatures to base your assumptions on.
"Is this the reason Sikhs in USA are being killed?"
My use of the vernacular (towel-heads) in this case was to illustrate that citizens of the US were largely dismissive of the actions of terrorists like OBL. Not only were we not interested in picking a fight with muslims, we did not know and did not care about the occasional idiot who would blow up an embassy or a visiting warship. However most Americans (although probably not most guppies) WOULD have a hard time distinguishing a Sikh from an Arab. Sorry about that, but we guppies try to hold our shooting of anyone who could be loosely described as a "towel-head" to a minimum. ;)
i saw a programme on bbc some time back where they had a survey all over the world where the over whelming response from the people as far as france germany japan korea was that usa is a greater threat to world peace than axis of evil
Don’t confuse such delicate sensibilities, a decade is 45 minutes and vice versa it’s all relative and depends on the day of the week and it’s all besides the point, the real point being that Saddam was ‘unfinished business’…oooh I love it when people get politically technical.
Let's see. 45 minutes or a decade? Funny thing about time bombs. You can hear them ticking, know that they are dangerous, but how loud the boom, and when it will go off can remain mysteries until the worst happens. Saddam was a time bomb.
As far as unfinished business, I have many friends in the military. The ending of the 1991 Gulf War was an abomination in terms of military outcomes. When you shoot someone with the intent to kill, the standard way to do it is the "double tap". Why? An instructor will tell you that anyone dangerous enough to be shot once, should probably be shot twice just to make sure. To stretch the analogy further, if Saddam was important enough, and dangerous enough to go to war with he should have been finished off! Pushing him back into his borders in 1991 may have been the politically-correct UN type of thing to do, but it was a non-ending militarily. Ergo unfinished business..... Chalk that up to "lessons learned". Only fight the same opponent once!
I'd love to believe that the majority of non-Muslim Americans have a greater grasp of the current global-political situation and the ramifications of imposing tyranny on random populations around the world; alas you guys on gupshup are in the spotlight and carry a responsibility of putting forward the views of the masses in your demographic.
It's fun to generalize especially when you have such caricatures to base your assumptions on.
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How about you, Thap? Are you up to the task of visiting a non-Muslim American bulletin board and carrying the responsibility of putting forward the views of your demographics? Discuss the ramifications of the militant Islamic movement that is imposing terror on random populations around the world. And please don't be too surprised to find caricatures for the monolith group you would represent.
"Have any of your 'many freinds in the military' got the 'double tap' themselves yet?"
Nice, very classy.
I have had three neighbors return this month. (And one who just received his next posting as the Naval Attache to the American Embassy in Egypt--I am sure he will have the opportunity to visit both of your vessels.). To a man they were proud of what they did, felt bad for the Iraqi people, had mostly positive interactions with Iraqi's. Beyond the "news", the Iraqi people know that the US is trying to secure the country, and blame the "thugs" who have always existed under Saddam. The men who returned were all volunteers, and worked 18hour days for over a year to see Saddam fall. They are willing to put their lives at risk, and work hard for what they believe.
You may fashion yourself a sophisticate with worldly opinions, and snide generalizations about Americans. But Americans do indeed believe that they will be safer and the world will be a better place after removing Saddam, the Taliban, and terrorists scattered throughout the world.
As Seminole said, when I see you carrying the banner for your views outside of the safety of Gupistan, I will be a lot more impressed.
Sometimes I have to literally laugh out loud after reading your comments. It’s not they’re absurd or don’t represent your closely held views well, but just because most of what you write you do so without much personal thought.
OG,
You feign over sensitivity at my throwing back the ‘double tap’ comment. Whereas using this sort of maladjusted terminology to describe two horrific wars fought against mostly innocents, you are at ease.
I couldn’t be happier that your neighbours have returned, did they see ‘Saddam Fall’ or instead see Iraq fall asunder under a decade of unrelenting bombing and sanctions then more recent attacks amounting to nothing less than genocide.
Seminole,
Am I up to the task of carrying the responsibility of my views in other bulleting boards, hmm how about different media, like say with friends or colleagues. I wonder how many Muslim ‘acquaintances’ you have? I think I’m well placed to see both sides having a good mix of religions in the friends I choose entirely by chance I hasten to add. I don’t watch what I say around any of them as we’ve known each other for years and wouldn’t expect them to either as long as what they said was original and not regurgitated diatribe…as so often is the case in here.
So far I really haven’t had much of an honest answer to my original question; I find it hard to believe that the US government’s recent actions in Afghanistan and Iraq have been accepted so blithely under the banner of ‘the war against terror’ within the US. All things seem unrelated to me, show me the thread I’m missing linking these events.
Don’t confuse such delicate sensibilities, a decade is 45 minutes and vice versa it’s all relative and depends on the day of the week and it’s all besides the point, the real point being that Saddam was ‘unfinished business’…oooh I love it when people get politically technical.
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As far as unfinished business, I have many friends in the military. The ending of the 1991 Gulf War was an abomination in terms of military outcomes.
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Damn these UN guys. They are such spoilt sports. Under their watchful eyes in 1991 it was never going to be easy taking over the oil. It was best to leave Sadam (unfinished business) for a later date. I along with millions of people were relieved to see the 'unfinished business' come to a close.
I can now sleep easy in the knowledge that I have seen the evidence of WMD stockpiled by Sadam. Or is that I can sleep easy in the knowledge that I no longer have to worry about where my next litre of gas is coming from?
Whatever the reason, I am glad I no longer have to make that ill prepared speech to my family and friends once I heard that 45 minute warning (or was it a decade?)
Ah, lunch time again. Time for me to visit the restaurant, run by that ‘towel head’.