Re: No CNG for Punjab, federal capital in Nov, Dec, Jan: minister
What is your stance 
Re: No CNG for Punjab, federal capital in Nov, Dec, Jan: minister
Bhai … there is no such thing required as regassification when converting LNG into Natural gas … and thus no expenses. Once LNG comes out of its container, lower temperature would automatically turn LNG into Natural Gas … and that gas would get fed to already existing piping to people’s home as well as to CNG stations. So, no extra cost.
LNG is expensive from Natural gas because it is cooled to such low temperature that it becomes Liquid, still it is cheaper (and also cleaner when used) then crude oil.
Anyhow, a country would only import LNG if they could not get natural gas directly from a country. Pakistan can. With a neighbour like Iran that has largest world gas reserves, Pakistan should not worry.
Pakistan has already made contract with Iran (signed by Zardari) that all related pipelines in Pakistan would get completed by end of 2014 else Pakistan would be paying heavy penalty to Iran … and that means, most likely by end of 2014 Pakistan would start getting huge amount of Gas from Iran, and feeding that gas to people’s houses as well as CNG stations … no problem.
Actually, I have heard that Pakistan is also thinking to buy LNG from UAE … so, even though that would be expensive gas than Iranian gas, Pakistan would have imported natural gas for houses as well as CNG stations
Re: No CNG for Punjab, federal capital in Nov, Dec, Jan: minister
bhai, baraf thori hai, bahar rakho, pighal jai gi 
Understanding the Role of Liquefied Natural Gas; Part 1 — Natural Gas — Penn State Extension
Regasification – A controlled process of converting LNG from a liquid back to a gas so that it can be moved through the domestic natural gas pipeline transportation network. Regasification can add $0.30 per mcf to the cost of LNG. Thermal energy (heat) is required to regasify the LNG. This heat may be obtained either from heat exchange with seawater or from the combustion of a portion of the natural gas in the process. Nearly two-thirds of the regasification plants throughout the world seawater as their base heat source…
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/14/uruguay-lng-idUSL2N0DV23G20130514
Uruguay awarded French gas and power group GDF Suez SA a contract to build a liquefied natural gas (LNG) regasification plant at an estimated cost of $1.125 billion, the government said on Tuesday…
Re: No CNG for Punjab, federal capital in Nov, Dec, Jan: minister
What is your stance :p
That it is idiotic to convert private cars to CNG when you do not have enough natural gas to run your power houses or industry.
Re: No CNG for Punjab, federal capital in Nov, Dec, Jan: minister
Thanks for the article. It was nice read and informative. From the article you can see that imported LNG get converted to gas form at the port and fed into pipelines.
Most what I wrote earlier was from memory so mistake in thinking that ‘regasification’ is complete natural process, not procedural to be called ‘regasification’.
What I believed and I still think it is true, that, since LNG could not be fed into gas pipes because once LNG finds lower temperature it would expand, convert into gas form, and in process would burst the pipe … requirement would be to somehow trickle feed the pipe and make sure when liquid becomes gas due to low environmental temperate, there is enough space available for it to expand.
From the article, I realised that the process is called regasification, and that this process is done at sea-port, heating LNG or using sea-water in controlled environment, before feeding the gas to gas pipes.
So, process of converting LNG into Gas is called regasification, and you were right.
Anyhow, your referred article do prove the point that CNG stations and car running on CNG was good decision … because import of LNG instead of crude oil would still be cheaper per MBTU, and that means, in Pakistan, car should run on imported natural gas and not imported petrol, as that would save dollars in form of lower import bill, would save people money in theirs’ transport, and in addition, use of CNG instead of petrol would keep the environment cleaner.
Pakistan can get gas from Iran cheaply, but even if Pakistan imports LNG from UAE and give gas to CNG stations, still it would be cheaper than importing crude oil, refining crude oil into petrol, and then using that to run cars.
Cost given in your referred article:
• Liquefaction – $1.50 to $2.00 per mcf.
• Shipping – $0.30 to $0.90 per mcf.
• Regasification – $0.30 per mcf to the cost of LNG … shows that regasification cost is not much as it is mostly to do with controlled process of making LNG into Gas.
For instance … article is 20 month old (Feb 2012), and at that time, according to article, after all procedures (liquefaction, transport, and gasification) and cost of natural gas taken into account, LNG would cost $5 to $6 per MCF … and if we take $6 per MCF then also import of Natural gas would cost around $34 per barrel of crude oil import (remembering that present crude oil price is $102 per barrel) … hence saving ~$68 per barrel of crude oil import.
Pakistan imports ~70,000,000 barrel of crude oil per year … that is rising with time … replacing that with imported gas would save around 5 billion dollars in import bill … that saving would increase with any further increase in crude oil price … and would also increase further if Pakistan own fuel requirement would increase needing more imported fuel.
It means, converting private cars, rather every transport vehicles, using petrol to run on CNG was not only good idea but it was essential for country like Pakistan that has no oil or gas and have to import them for local need.
Re: No CNG for Punjab, federal capital in Nov, Dec, Jan: minister
That it is idiotic to convert private cars to CNG when you do not have enough natural gas to run your power houses or industry.
Exactly it was idiotic in Winters we have no for households and people want CNG in their cars
Re: No CNG for Punjab, federal capital in Nov, Dec, Jan: minister
......It means, converting private cars, rather every transport vehicles, using petrol to run on CNG was not only good idea but it was essential for country like Pakistan that has no oil or gas and have to import them for local need.
Typical. Use the cheaper, scarce resource on non-productive things rather than in productive things.
Just like Generals in our army who would spend more time in golf courses and real estate deals than doing their jobs.
Re: No CNG for Punjab, federal capital in Nov, Dec, Jan: minister
^^^ Brother, when we talk about oil or gas, there is no such thing as scarce resources other than dollars that can buy resources (oil or gas) … but then, Pakistani corrupts also love dollars, not for buying resources but to put them in their Swiss accounts. They think that after death, Allah would ask them dollars, and more dollars they would have, much better place they would get in heaven … not knowing that only thing such ill-gained dollars would buy them after death is ‘Hell’.:)
Regardless of a country produces or import resources, country should always value a resource at market price (for that country).
For Pakistan … even if Pakistan has just enough gas (what Pakistan does not) to supply industry and for generating electricity … or … to run car as CNG … and Pakistan cannot import gas but only oil, then also:
If Pakistan would use gas for industry and generating electricity then Pakistan would need to import petrol for cars in place of CNG. On the other hand, if Pakistan decides to use gas (CNG) to run cars then Pakistan would have to import petrol for industry and generating electricity. In both cases, end result is importing petrol, and it does not matter where locally produced gas is used (on car as CNG … or fuel for industry and generating electricity). Result would be ‘square one’ = one.
Idea is to see what is cheap in world market, gas or petrol, and use the cheapest fuel to run car and also use that cheap fuel for industry and generating electricity (in present market situation, gas is much cheaper than oil, and that should be used for cars, industry and generating electricity).
If Pakistan had huge amount of gas and crude oil, then also it would have been more prudent (if government was intelligent) to use gas for cars, industry and production of electricity … exporting crude oil. On the other hand, if Pakistan had plenty of crude oil but no gas, still a prudent government would have exported that oil, import gas using oil proceeds, and then use that gas to run cars and also use gas for industry and electricity generation.
Lakin lagta hay … this reality of economy … Samjhna Mushkil hay, especially for those who are accountant like Ishaq Daar and incompetent rulers like Thug Nawaz:)
Re: No CNG for Punjab, federal capital in Nov, Dec, Jan: minister
Or hard cash half millions pounds and expensive jewlery in home, that is also collected through bhatta, kidnapping, ransome, looting government money and stealing cars and cell phones. You always forget the most interesting act of your pir-o-mushid of landan sharif.